New construction - Whole House Audio Systems

Discussion in 'Home Audio (Stereo Systems)' started by DarkCide, Apr 14, 2019.

  1. DarkCide

    DarkCide Member

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    I'm in the process of building my new home and wanted to see what options are there for whole house audio systems.

    Would like to do the wiring (or wireless) before sheetrock installed.

    Looking for suggestions and ideas on whats out there.
     
  2. Rex Anderson

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    Look at Bluesound. Otherwise, you are looking at in ceiling speakers, 70V system etc. Revel makes good sounding in ceiling speakers.
     
  3. DarkCide

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    Was going to avoid ceiling speakers since they all sound terrible.
     
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    B&O, Naim, Tivoli, and other manufacturers have wireless solutions. All sound really good.
     
  5. Rex Anderson

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    A lot of pro audio for video facilities use the Revel C763L because you can aim the tweeter at the main listening position and they sound very good.

    Lots of folks mounting JBL LSR705P from the ceiling. Again, aim the speaker at you to get direct sound.
     
  6. Jerrod

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    How about just going old school and putting conduit in for proper speaker cables? Most building codes will be very restrictive. And string a bunch of Ethernet cable so you can use wired players? And make sure you have AC everywhere you want it. Allow for space to locate a server, router, storage, etc.
     
  7. Mister Natural

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    the last "new" I did was early 1990s

    I stand by the infallibility of copper wire in the wall - if I could change one thing for 21st century, I'd add cat7 line everywhere in place of the speaker wire that's there now

    you also want a dedicated mainsAC line to your primary/base set-up
    peace
     
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    I would avoid putting all my bits in one wireless basket; in other words, wire the entire house with Ethernet what ever the latest is. Even put the wired connections in the "I'll never need it here!" places.
     
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  9. amigo30

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    I would strongly recommend seeing a local Automation specialist as quickly as possible.

    When setting up for whole-home music and automation there are three primary systems in use. Crestron, Control4, and Savant (and a lot of cheap "don't work so good" brands). Being in the business having had 1st hand experience with all three, I strongly recommend Control 4 for typical residential use for some very good reasons.

    I see clients all the time that try to do it themselves. Not once have I seen good results from that approach. Not one single time. Having a comprehensive and cohesive plan
    that takes in all sorts of details, as well as planning ahead for future use is imperative during the early stages of construction. You might very well want to slightly
    modify your home design to accommodate a central rack area and plan wire-chase's for future use. You will have electrical considerations, and will have to work around other trades to insure things like plumbing don't mess up your plan.

    The plan needs to be in place EARLY because the cable needs to go in during the very short period after the electricians are done, and before the drywall goes up. And whoever is putting that cable in needs to know WHAT cable goes where, and to fit you in their schedule... so you'll want a completed plan at least a month before the drywall date.

    Once the drywall is in, you've missed the very LAST chance you have to do it right until you rip the walls down for a total renovation. (unless you don't mind swiss-cheesing your new home..) If you're looking for quality whole-house audio/video/networking and automation - go see a pro as quickly as you can.

    Having experience and training involved in your planning more than pays off in the results.
     
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  10. amigo30

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    By the way ...

    There are REALLY good in-wall and in-ceiling speakers - and they aren't 70-volt for residential use. Bowers and Wilkins, Dynaudio, Sonus Faber, are three really good brands. JL Audio makes amazing in-wall subwoofers.

    Yes there's a lot of cheap crappy stuff out there that sounds awful. It doesn't have to, just the people that put it in either didn't know any better, or were too cheap to do it right.
     
  11. Rex Anderson

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    Don't forget to include Revel if you are looking for good sounding in wall and in ceiling speakers. The Revel C763L is used by many pro audio for video sound mixers. In a home theater system it is desirable to be able to aim the tweeters at the main listening position to get on axis response.
     
  12. Jeff Scott

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    You should see what the plumbers did to the framing in our house! I am amazed that one area under the 2nd floor bathroom didn't collapse. When we did a gut renovation in 2017 (exactly 100 years after the house was built) the contractor added very substantial sistering to shore it up.
     

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