Discussion in 'The Pub' started by Steeltoe, May 7, 2016.
I am diggin' the new Spider:
Looks like they're taking a shot at the Mazda Miata. Good looking car though.
It is a Miata ...
^Yes, it shares the chassis with the new Miata, but has a more powerful engine, and the bodywork is different.
Wonder how reliable it will be. Nothing I could drive, however.
IMO, it's a shame they didn't capture more of the old simpler Spyder styling as I think the retro look would have been very popular. Still with the Miata chassis, running gear and a more powerful engine it'll probably be a blast to drive.
More info here if anyone wants to see details
Mazda powertrain and running gear mated to a proven engine from the Fiat 500 Abarth - sounds like it will pretty reliable
Fiats tend to be pretty reliable for the first 60 000 miles.
Three zeros too many.
I've definitely seen a lot of reports/anecdotes about poor quality. My wife and I joke whenever we see one parked that it is actually broken.
No, run away.
I had a Fiat 124 Spyder I bought brand new. It was great for two months. During the one year I owned it, it spent 8 months in the shop.
Transmission failures, electrical problems, the mechanics didn't have a clue. The dealer didn't care.
I'd be driving home from having the wipers fixed, hit a bump and the headlights would go out.
Eventually, the warranty expired, it was before lemon laws, and I was screwed.
I sold it with no working transmission, lost my a**.
Funny how people develop attitudes about certain brands based on one bad experience from 30-40 years ago.
Do you really think the 2017 model has anything at all in common with the car you owned?
I used to drive a Fiat X1/9. Hated it while repairing and loving it again once fixed.
Fix It Again Tony
Well, they're calling it the same thing and to anyone who owned one back then, it'll bring back memories of huge repair bills and shoddy workmanship.
I owned a Fiat Strada way back when they were sold here (I think it was something like a '79). I too had problems that never really got resolved - mostly electrical problems. But aside from that it was a good car - great seats, snappy handling and reasonably good on road trips. Fiats are not the same animals they were back in the bad old days. If my Abarth is any indication anyway... it is a car with real personality and a blast to drive; and no problems so far at all. Based on my experience with this, I wouldn't have any trepidation about buying the new 124.
Most people who drove a 124 "back then" are not in the market for a new one, so the reputation isn't even a thought in a new buyer's mind.
I personally like the 124 way better than the new Miata; better styling and a little better performance should make for a decent little roadster, but I don't think I'll get my wife out of her '90 MX5. She really likes those stupid flip-up headlights...
I had a 128SL. Thank God I bought it used. The only good thing I can say is that I never had a flat tire. Sold it for parts.
That's strange...the friend I'm still in contact with who owned a 124, a 128 and even had a X1/9 later has always driven little convertible type cars. He currently has a Miata among a couple of others in his garage.
I saw him yesterday and he asked me if I'd heard about the new 124 and I said "you're not seriously thinking about buying one are you?" and he said that he likes the styling and the old one was fun to drive when it ran, but the memories of his old Fiats and those repair bills are convincing him to forget about it.
Looks cool, although a bit Miata-ish. Guess it's aimed at the chick market.
Not in my experience and I've owned five of them. Maybe they send the crappy ones to the US. Like Fender sends their lemons to Europe.