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new GT-100 video AT Sweetwater

lp_bruce

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Man, these shred demos are just so awful. Great playing, but how about some rhythm parts or something other than shredding and weird sounds?

... understanding that I'm in the "online demos don't tell you much crowd" anyway, so perhaps I'm the wrong person for this particular whine.

Peace,
 

eman22

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agreed that it is the same content.....however, the interesting thing that I noted, and the reason that I posted it was because:

It says that this video was SHOT in Ft. Wayne, Indiana at Sweetwater....and I found that to be of interest......
 

Guitar Josh

Resident Curmudgeon
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A perfect example of "blanket over the speaker" tone. This sounds like garbage.
 

guitarist58

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I saw that in my Facebook news feed (since I "liked" Sweetwater). It really just made me mad because of the way Sweetwater presented it:

"Rob Marcello visited Sweetwater this week to give us a personal demo of the new BOSS GT-100! Our Winter NAMM 2012 demo video got a ton of views, so we're sure this will help many more get an idea of what's possible with the GT-100. Enjoy the demo, then learn more about the BOSS GT-100 right here: (link)"

Now maybe you guys at Sweetwater consider that a "demo", but IMO it was more like: he just played the same damn song. It doesn't "help many more get an idea of what's possible with the GT-100", and no, you won't "learn more about the BOSS GT-100 right here", because the new video provides not one iota of new information about the unit compared to the NAMM coverage.

The only thing that helped was hearing it in a cleaner (less noisy) environment. I guess Sweetwater wouldn't have gotten as much interest if they had said: "Watch Rob Marcello play that fusion tune with less background noise!".

We wanna know stuff about the unit!!1! :bitch


[Old man shakes fist at cloud]


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AZG

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Whats the point of another video of Rob playing the same song AGAIN? Rob is a monster player, but I want to hear what the GT-100 can do, not Rob. I want to hear striped down basic amp tones, not fireworks!
 

Henky

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Still wondering about that accel pedal, judging from Rob Marcello's vid it's perfect to imitate a laser gun but I'm not totally sure I want that :bonk

I rather have it imitate a vintage tube amp but as far as i can tell from those vids the accel pedal is nothing more than a useless gimmick.
 

Will Chen

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You know, listening to the vid again. It actually does a decent job demonstrating some of the effects within the unit. You get to hear the wah, reverb, harmonizer (which in the vid sounds and tracks very good btw), whammy style pitch bend, slicer (or super choppy trem), and some whacked out special effects. Yes, it doesn't demonstrate much range in terms of amp modeling tones and of course there's no talk of features...perhaps Roland/Boss has a gag order in place as the final specs aren't completely finished? Who knows. Still very much looking forward to it. Honestly, I think the crowd most interested in a GT unit is actually interested in some of the whacked out effects it can do. I know I am. Its typically been an area of distinction between them and the rest of the multi-fx units in its price range. Though the HD500 closed that gap significantly.
 

jmcorey

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perhaps Roland/Boss has a gag order in place as the final specs aren't completely finished? Who knows.
I did break down and call Roland tech support 2 weeks ago to ask them some questions right after NAMM had finished up. The guy intimated that there was some final tweaking to be done, i.e, that the units at NAMM were prototypes.

But he did say that his boss (pardon the pun) is a guitar player and came away very excited about what the new amp models can do. Take that for what it is worth....

For now, I will focus on bettering my tone and playing based on what I now own. If the GT-100 gives me an advantage (I actually discovered that I do prefer presets), I will get one and use it. If not, I won't.

But for my needs, the GT-100 needs to have better dynamics in the amps and better sounding OD. Because the M13 and HD stuff is already there, and the RP1000 and Tech 21 Character products have been for a while. For me, the M-effects into Character series into my Atomic Amp 18 watter sound so alive, I love it.
 

RedTiger

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I'm looking forward to maybe buying one of these, but I admit that it would have been better to just have someone in-house demo the unit rather than a Boss spokesperson.

Maybe they can't? Maybe along with a gag order all demos have to have one of Roland's people doing the playing?
 

jmcorey

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Just set it to the Deluxe Model with a strat or Tele bridge pickup, play soft, then dig hard. Perhaps a touch of verb as the effect. That would do it.
 

Will Chen

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I'm looking forward to maybe buying one of these, but I admit that it would have been better to just have someone in-house demo the unit rather than a Boss spokesperson.

Maybe they can't? Maybe along with a gag order all demos have to have one of Roland's people doing the playing?
That's my guess. The only demos happening are being controlled and geared to showcase a few specific things, mostly at the high gain side of things. Some folks said they got to play with one for a bit at NAMM so we do have a handful of firsthand accounts but they've all said very different things.

Just set it to the Deluxe Model with a strat or Tele bridge pickup, play soft, then dig hard. Perhaps a touch of verb as the effect. That would do it.
That's the type of field demo that come with time once owners get their hands on the box. By the same reasoning that million note a minute demos have a limited audience and don't show the full feature set of the product, honestly strumming a couple chords on a Fender amp model also doesn't show the full feature set of the product and indeed has an equally limited audience. Don't get me wrong, that's important to me, but if that's a player's only concern, then there are already products on the market to scratch that itch...some at a significantly lower cost. The vast majority of complaints on the GT-10 surrounded the cocked wah on a couple high gain models. IMHO, they've gone to lengths to show that has been remedied. I would be more interested in reading the manual at this point rather than hearing any more demos.
 

birdie_in_texas

I can haz virgins?
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So Will you are going to "guinea pig" it for the rest of us? I bet your "appraisal" of the unit will be FAR better than what BOSS has done..

I am looking forward to your getting ahold of one and gettin' jiggy with it!
 

Will Chen

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So Will you are going to "guinea pig" it for the rest of us? I bet your "appraisal" of the unit will be FAR better than what BOSS has done..

I am looking forward to your getting ahold of one and gettin' jiggy with it!
Yep. Preordered. FWIW, I didn't think the GT-10 was a horrible device so likely for me there will be a bunch to like here as well. But when things bug me about a unit, I don't pull punches.
 




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