New Guitar: Should I ban myself?

Discussion in 'Guitars in General' started by aleclee, Mar 13, 2006.


  1. aleclee

    aleclee TGP Tech Wrangler Staff Member

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    A recent windfall left some cash burning a hole in my pocket and it occurred to me that a non-Indonesian Variax might be nice (I bought a V300 last year). I considered a V600 because I wanted a trem but instead opted for the 700, partly because I wanted a rosewood fretboard and partly because the 700 supposedly has a higher-performance modeling engine.

    I found a pretty good deal on a new one (with warranty) on evilBay and pulled the trigger this afternoon. I'll probably have it in my grubby little hands by the end of the week.

    They say that confession is good for the soul so I figured I'd confess my "sins". I hope you all will forgive me for the offense of buying an imported guitar with more electronic components than some of your amps. ;)

    Seriously, I've had a blast with my V300 played through my POD XTL. I'm looking forward to having those capabilities in a higher-quality instrument.
     
  2. Scott Peterson

    Scott Peterson Staff Member

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    Hey, I own and *use* a Variax 700 (hardtail); Variax 700 Acoustic and POD XT Live.

    If you get banned, I have to get banned. :D Ain't gonna happen! :D
     
  3. aleclee

    aleclee TGP Tech Wrangler Staff Member

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    Do you find the additional acoustic models on the Variax Acoustic to be useful or is it more an aesthetic thing?
     
  4. Turbo Gerbil

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    Hey alec, if you are gonna unload your V300 I might be interested.
     
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    Ldavey Silver Supporting Member

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    Since the topic of the V'ax is on the table, anyone offering guidance on upgrading the internals/software on them? I'm still enjoying my 500, but have read about the updates. Any pointers or suggestions on the process?
    Thanks, Larry
     
  7. bluestein

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    The updates make a big difference.

    The acoustic models are more natural sounding, the 12 string Rics are improved. The update is free - there's no reason to NOT do it.

    The Variax is (to me) the perfect gigging guitar for the musician that needs to cover a wide range of tones in an evening. The tones are all very good - and very usable.

    You mentioned the 300 - it's intended to be an "entry level" model. If you bring it to a luthier for a decent detaling and setup - it's a fine instrument.

    I leveled, crowned and polished the frets, adjusted the intonation, did a vintage round-over of the fingerboard edges and replaced the stock tuners with Planet Waves. It now plays as well as anything I own. A luthier could do the same work for about 2 -3 hours of bench time.

    You'll still have to endure the slings and arrows of the "purists" out there - but overall its great for live work.

    GC has the 300's for $349....on special. If you can find one.

    Ban me too....it's my instrument of choice for gigging. And *gasp* - I plug it into a Vetta.
     
  8. Drunkagain

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    How do you guys use 'em? Right into your amp? Do you have to adjust the amp settings when you change models on the Variax?
     
  9. aleclee

    aleclee TGP Tech Wrangler Staff Member

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    My one bit of advice is to save off your current patches in workbench.
     
  10. BigDoug1053

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    I use a POD XTL and enjoy it. Modeling sounds pretty good to me! I think the Variax guitars look kinda dorky stylewise, IMO - But I think the idea will really take off when they figure out how to make small retrofit kits that can be dropped into standard design guitars like LPs and Strats. Or if maybe Jackson or Anderson would offer a modeling guitar...

    :)

    Oh, and definitely you should BAN YOURSELF! You have been a NAUGHTY Mod, and you know what happens to NAUGHTY MODS??? Hmmmm? That right, they get BANNED BANNED BANNED - over and over again! BAN BAN BAN

    HAH! a little manic this morning! yikes!
     
  11. gkelm

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    Just picked up a Variax Acoustic last night...played for a couple hours! That guitar is a blast, and I'm not really even an acoustic guy.
    Greg
     
  12. The Golden Boy

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    FIRST VILLAGER

    We have found aleclee with a Variax. May we ban him?



    ALL

    Aleclee! Ban him!



    BEDEVERE

    How do you know he is a aleclee with a Variax?



    ALL

    He looks like one. Yes, he does.



    BEDEVERE

    Bring him forward.




    ALECLEE

    I am not an aleclee with a Variax. I am not an aleclee with a Variax.



    BEDEVERE

    But you are dressed as one.



    ALECLEE

    They dressed me up like this.



    ALL

    We didn't, we didn't!



    ALECLEE

    This is not my nose, It is a false one.



    BEDEVERE takes his nose off.



    BEDEVERE

    Well?



    FIRST VILLAGER

    ... Well, we did do the nose.



    BEDEVERE

    The nose?



    FIRST VILLAGER

    And the hat. But he is an aleclee with a Variax.



    ALL

    An aleclee with a Variax, an aleclee with a Variax, ban him!



    BEDEVERE

    Did you dress him up like this?



    FIRST VILLAGER

    ... Um ... Yes ... no ... a bit ... yes... he has got a wart.



    BEDEVERE

    Why do you think he is an aleclee with a Variax?



    SECOND VILLAGER

    He turned me into the Nuge.



    BEDEVERE

    The Nuge?



    SECOND VILLAGER

    (After looking at himself for some time)

    I got better.



    ALL

    Ban him anyway.



    BEDEVERE

    Quiet! Quiet! There are ways of telling whether he is aleclee with a Variax.



    ARTHUR and PATSY ride up at this point and watch what follows with interest



    ALL

    There are? Tell up. What are they, wise Sir Bedevere?



    BEDEVERE

    Tell me ... what do you do with aleclee with a Variax?



    ALL

    Ban them.



    BEDEVERE

    And what do you ban, apart from aleclee with a Variax?



    FOURTH VILLAGER

    ... Trolls?



    BEDEVERE

    So why does aleclee with a Variax get banned?



    SECOND VILLAGER

    (pianissimo)

    ... Because they're made of trolls...?



    BEDEVERE

    Good.



    PEASANTS stir uneasily then come round to this conclusion.



    ALL

    I see. Yes, of course.



    BEDEVERE

    So how can we tell if he is made of trolls?



    FIRST VILLAGER

    Make a bridge out of him.



    BEDEVERE

    Ah ... but can you not also make bridges out of stone?



    ALL

    Ah. Yes, of course ... um ... err ...



    BEDEVERE

    Do trolls sink in water?



    ALL

    No, no, It floats. Throw him in the pond Tie weights on him. To

    the pond.



    BEDEVERE

    Wait. Wait ... tell me, what also floats on water?



    ALL

    Bread? No, no, no. Apples .... gravy ... very small rocks ...



    ARTHUR

    A duck.



    They all turn and look at ARTHUR. BEDEVERE looks up very impressed.



    BEDEVERE

    Exactly. So... logically ...



    FIRST VILLAGER

    (beginning to pick up the thread)

    If he ... weighs the same as a duck ... he's made of trolls.



    BEDEVERE

    And therefore?



    ALL

    An aleclee with a Variax! ... A duck! A duck! Fetch a duck.



    FOURTH VILLAGER

    Here is a duck, Sir Bedevere.



    BEDEVERE

    We shall use my largest scales.



    He leads them a few yards to a very strange contraption indeed, made of

    wood and rope and leather. They put the aleclee with a Variax in one pan and the duck

    in another. Each pan is supported by a wooden stave. BEDEVERE checks

    each pan then ... ARTHUR looks on with interest.



    BEDEVERE

    Remove the supports.



    Two PEASANTS knock them away with sledge hammers. The aleclee with a Variax and the duck

    swing slightly but balance perfectly.



    ALL

    An aleclee with a Variax! An aleclee with a Variax!



    ALECLEE

    It's a fair cop.



    All

    Ban him! Ban him! Let's make him into a ladder.



    The VILLAGERS drag the aleclee with a Variax away, leaving ARTHUR and BEDEVERE regarding

    each other admiringly.



    (you have no idea how much work that was...:rolleyes: )
     
  13. Turbo Gerbil

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    I didn't "get" the variax acoustic at first until playing my bandmates.... then it made total sense. I think it sounds way better through PA then piezos direct. Only problem is I don't like the way that guitar feels particularly well, it reminds me of the old Yamaha student acoustic I used to have.
     
  14. Ldavey

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    Last Friday, got tickets to Spamalot in July in DC.

    Is the Variax laden or unladen?
     
  15. Turbo Gerbil

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    Nice Job. I guess the Aleclee with Variax is to be found in the forbidden land of "InstituteofNoise".
     
  16. webe123

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    As far as the engine itself goes....from what I read, they are all the same! I have not heard anything from line 6 that says differently. Now as far as it being a better built guitar than a 300...yes. They are better built with better parts, but from what I have read, the electronics are identical in all models.
     
  17. tone4days

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    are you suggesting that variaxii are mi-GRAY-tory?
     
  18. The Golden Boy

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    ALECLEE: The swallow may fly south with the sun or the house martin or the
    plover may seek warmer climes in winter, yet these are not strangers to
    our land?
    SOLDIER #1: Are you suggesting Variaxii migrate?
    ALECLEE: Not at all. They could be carried.
    SOLDIER #1: What? A swallow carrying a Variax?
    ALECLEE: It could grip it by the strap peg!
    SOLDIER #1: It's not a question of where he grips it! It's a simple question
    of weight ratios! A five ounce bird could not carry a nine pound Variax.
    ALECLEE: Well, it doesn't matter. Will you go and tell your master that aleclee from the The Gear Page is here.
    SOLDIER #1: Listen. In order to maintain air-speed velocity, a swallow needs
    to beat its wings forty-three times every second, right?
    ALECLEE: Please!
    SOLDIER #1: Am I right?
    ALECLEE: I'm not interested!
    SOLDIER #2: It could be carried by an Indonesian swallow!
    SOLDIER #1: Oh, yeah, an Indonesian swallow maybe, but not a European swallow.
    That's my point.
    SOLDIER #2: Oh, yeah, I agree with that.
    ALECLEE: Will you ask your master if he wants to join my forums at The Gear Page?!
    SOLDIER #1: But then of course a-- Indonesian swallows are non-migratory.
    SOLDIER #2: Oh, yeah...
    SOLDIER #1: So they couldn't bring a Variaxe back anyway...
    [clop clop clop]
    SOLDIER #2: Wait a minute! Supposing two swallows carried it together?
    SOLDIER #1: No, they'd have to have it on a line.
    SOLDIER #2: Well, simple! They'd just use a strand of guitar strings!
    SOLDIER #1: What, held under the dorsal guiding feathers?
    SOLDIER #2: Well, why not?
     
  19. aleclee

    aleclee TGP Tech Wrangler Staff Member

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    They behave very similarly but the electronics are different. From ION:
    If the only difference was packaging, they wouldn't need separate firmware versions.
     
  20. Andy_T

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    I've heard of several people doing major surgery taking the variax equipment out of the guitars they come in and placing them in a guitar that they find plays better.

    This is MAJOR surgery, though.
     

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