New Issue Tung Sol 12AX7 and JJ ECC803S

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  1. Teleplayer

    Teleplayer Silver Supporting Member

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    Anybody using these two preamp tubes? If so, in which amps - and which slots (i.e., V1, etc.) in those amps? Please describe your likes/dislikes.
     
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    riffmeister Gold Supporting Member

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    I'm curious about the JJ, too. I hope the longer plate design is better than the original (which I don't care for at all).
     
  3. Boogs

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    I'm loving the Tung Sol reissue in the V1 of both of my amps - really clear tone with a nice high end. The JJ high-gain ECC83S still reigns supreme for the overdrive slot (only one in both cases) in my book.

    Never tried the JJ you are asking about, though I've seen it on Bob's site... curiosity will get me one day... ;)
     
  4. Speed_Racer71

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    i bought both of them and a JJ83s..but after reading that the long plate tubes were not recommended for combos i just used the JJ83s instead..the tung sol is sitting here on my desk lol

    oh wait i actually did use the JJ803 , but it was in a Valvetronix combo and i couldnt tell the difference between it or the EH that was in it when i got it

    and if someone knows why long plate tubes are not recommeded for combos id sure like to know why
     
  5. Shea

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    I don't know for sure why someone said that, but my guess is bigger internals = more prone to microphonics.

    Shea
     
  6. riffmeister

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    Yeah, prolly the reason why.

    That said, I've been using long plate preamp tubes in all of my combo amps for the last five years (mostly Ei's which everyone warns about being so prone to microphonics) and I've had zero/zilch/null set/chicken egg/nada problems. Go figure.
     
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    so the long plates would be ok in a head?
     
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    They won't fit in the little aluminum tube cans, and they weigh so much that they'll be falling out of the sockets ;)
     
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    the guys at the tube store said that the long plate tubes in a combo were more prone to microphonics because they are close to the speaker..:rolleyes:
     
  10. ScottB

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    I've got the Tung Sol's in a Zinky Superfly combo (all positions).

    Sound great and no problems. They've been gigged with and banged around in my car multiple times now.
     
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    riffmeister Gold Supporting Member

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    true, but see my previous post.
     
  12. Giga

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    I have them both and experimented in different slot and in different amps.
    To me, they are very much alike. So much so that it doesn't justify the pricedifference for me. The JJ's cost roughly half of what the Tungsols cost.

    Both very good to my ears though...

    Giga.
     

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