New Marshall: JVM205H

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  1. haslar

    haslar Member

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    I've just read that this new Marshall amp should be out by Jan 8th.
    Specs:
    • 50W
    • 2 channel all tube design.
    • 2 EL34 power tubes with 5 12AX7 preamp tubes.
    • Two totally independent, footswitchable channels (clean/crunch & overdrive).
    • Each channel has 3 footswitchable modes (green, orange and red) with switch memory for user preset reverb, FX and master volume settings.
    • Studio quality digital reverb with independent controls for each channel.
    • 2 footswitchable master volumes and two FX loops (one series, and one parallel/series).
    • Includes programmable 4-way, 5 LED footswitch with memory capabilities.
    • MIDI in/thru jacks on rear panel.
    • All footwitiching may be done via MIDI.
    • Made in England.
    There will also be a JVM210H, that will be the 100W version.

    Anyone has info about it? It looks like a simplified JVM410H - I wonder what those two channels will be? The JVM's channels 1&2? 1&3?

    :BOUNCE
     
  2. electronpirate

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    Interesting. I like the idea that you wouldn't need 4 channels, 3 modes apiece. Seems with those modes, you'd be just FINE with 2 independent 3 modes.

    Hmm. Time to finally buy a Marshall?

    EP
     
  3. haslar

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    It could well look like this:


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  4. vintage66

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    Yeah, but the price is the same as the 4 channel was and the 4 channel is about $500 higher now. I was looking forward to this one coming out but not anymore.
     
  5. Greazygeo

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    It does look like that....there are combo versions coming as well. Thanks to our weak dollar...the price on the 410's have gone up.

    Some other interesting stuff coming out too....
     
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    This is just ********. I was considering it thinking it would be priced lower than the 4 channel, but suddenly they're looking for a way to gouge the crap out of us by raising prices?

    Figures...bastids.

    Just have to wait 6 months for the initial blush to recede.

    EP
     
  7. Sniper-V

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    I had some hopes on this one...

    Until I try one, I don't have an opinion other that I like the JVM410 but it has a little too much for me.
     
  8. The Pup

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    The USD is falling ever farther.
     
  9. BSHARP

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    Let's face it the dollar is getting killed and imported goods are going up.
    As far as the new models go, I remember reading threads about the JVM410 on this forum when it first came out stating that "If only Marshall would come out with a 50 watt, I might buy it." or " It has too many knobs." or "Why does anyone need 4 channels." Apparantly, Marshall was listening. They are great amps IMO, they even have a a 50Watt 1x12 combo version now along with a 2x12 50Watt and 100Watt. I know the master volume circuit in these amps work very well and so even the 100watt can be tamed.
     
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    why an amp w/ all these channels,dont they already have 2 and 3 and 4 channel amps....
     
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    Checking Musiciansfriend pricing on the JVM410H --- If you buy it with either the 1960BV or AV cab, you can get that $900 cab for only $310. They must have missed this price point when they raised the prices on the amp.
     
  12. haslar

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    Wahey! Just received my JVM205H today !!
    :Devil


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    Looking forward to bringing it over to the next band rehearsal!
    But I've played it at home at various volumes, and this stuff really seems nice. Especially those crunch tones!
    Plus the possibility to have 2 master volumes per channel is extremely useful IMHO.
     
  13. Miles Long

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    Congrats! Please post a review..
     
  14. haslar

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    Will do, but I first want to get past the honeymoon phase.
    Also, I'll be gigging with it in ten days time, so I'll wait till then so that I can post a real hands-on experience report.
     
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    This looks interesting. Do you have each channel and its modes available via MIDI meaning you have 6 "channels" total? That should certainly be enough!
     
  16. haslar

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    Yes, I believe so - even though I didn't read the bit about MIDI in the manual as I'll never use it.

    I believe the tone stacks and gains cannot be adjusted via MIDI, there are "shared" by all the modes on a given channel.

    The only things that are accessible via footswitch & MIDI are:
    • Master I & Master II
    • FX loop
    • Channel (Clean-crunch / OD)
    • Channel mode (green, orange or red)
    • Reverb
    All the rest is set by hand, using the knobs on the front panel.


    Tonight I've set the 4 switches on the footswitch as follows:
    (1). [triggers FX loop] sends the signal via the "FX loop out" to my tuner, allowing me to tune silently (no return from tuner to amp)
    (2). [triggers channel 1 Orange mode] for that Hendrixy-ACDC-Blackmorish kind of tone (great w/ a Strat!)
    (3). [triggers channel 2 Green mode] for a crunchier and meaner tone, think UFO - Kiss - and the whole 70s 2203 brigade
    (4): [triggers Master II, set a bit higher than Master I] effectively adds a jump in volume, without altering the tone of either (2) or (3), great for soloing when you need to be heard!

    Great stuff!!
     
  17. haslar

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    I've just recorded a couple of samples of my JVM205H.
    This one was recorded using my Gibson Les Paul '58 Historic (WCR Darkbursts) into the JVM, and a Marshall 4x12".
    I miked a '71 greenback Celestion G12M25 75Hz. Mics were a Sennheiser E606 & Shure SM57. I recorded the track with my Zoom H4.
    I used the clean/crunch channel in green mode.
    I didn't touch the amp during the recording, all variations are created by volume & pup selection on the Les Paul.

    This one was recorded with the same setup, but using my Suhr Classic (V60LPs) on the OD channel, orange mode, gain at noon.

    This is my first attempt ever at recording, so please be indulgent !!
    :)
     
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    I recorded a few clips yesterday, just some blues-rock improvised wanking so please forgive me for that!
    I used the integrated mics of my Zoom H4 (which I like, except for the flimsy build), positioned on a coffee table about 3 ft from the amps.
    I wanted to do a comparison between those two amps:

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    On the left, my JVM205H and a '77 Marshall 4x12" loaded w/ G12M25 75Hz.
    On the right, a '70 Superlead (modded to '67 specs) on top of a '75 4x12" Marshall loaded w/ G12M25 55Hz, except for one spkr (Eminence Tonker).
    Two guitars were used:
    - Squier '51 (Texas Special neck, Duncan SH1 '59 bridge)
    - Gibson Les Paul '58 reissue Historic (WCR Darkbursts)

    SUPERLEAD CLIPS
    JMP input I Squier 51 bridge
    JMP input I Squier 51 neck
    JMP input II Squier 51 neck position
    JMP Les Paul '58 Historic (WCR Darkbursts) bridge then neck

    JVM205H CLIPS
    JVM205H Les Paul '58 Historic (WCR Darkbursts) bridge then neck
    JVM205H Squier 51 bridge
    JVM205H Squier 51 neck

    Settings:
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    (clean / crunch channel, orange mode)

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    (used a THD Hotplate @ -12db for the Squier clips, -4db (ouch!) for the Les Paul clips)


    I think I set the gain too high and the resonance too low on the JVM, therefore it sounds a bit too thin to my ears.
     
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    http://www.jvmforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=455
     
  20. SgtThump

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    Excellent clips, haslar. Sounds like a couple of killer amps!

    Chris
     

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