New Suhr SSC system (ver II)....

[Crow]

Anyone know the details on the new Suhr system?

I'm interested to know if it will still require 3 pickups of the same polarity and winding direction (no RW/RP middle) and if it's available on non-Suhr guitars.

 

[SMark]

Not available on non-Suhr guitars YET... But that is in the works.

 

[Oso]

Anyone know the details on the new Suhr system?

I'm interested to know if it will still require 3 pickups of the same polarity and winding direction (no RW/RP middle) and if it's available on non-Suhr guitars.

Yes to question 1 and question 2 it will be eventually but right now all our concentration is to get everything dialed in to our guitars. I cant guess a date on aftermarket right now. Guiding people on installs of the old system has been extremely time consuming.

 

[Troubleman]

Wassa difference between rev1 and rev2....?


jb

 

[Oso]

Wassa difference between rev1 and rev2....?


jb

Everything except that they both cancel hum.
I cant get in to details due to some patent details.

 

[GarMan]

I have a Suhr Tele on order should be done in the summertime. I wonder if it will have the new SSC system? Hmmmm...

 

[AndrewC]

Is this a replacement for the BP-SSC or the SSC? My dealer told me the BP-SSC removes about 70% of hum and the SSC about 95% but the guitar needs to be routed to accommodate the SSC. Are there still two versions or does the new SSC replace both?

 

[Oso]

Is this a replacement for the BP-SSC or the SSC? My dealer told me the BP-SSC removes about 70% of hum and the SSC about 95% but the guitar needs to be routed to accommodate the SSC. Are there still two versions or does the new SSC replace both?

Anything shipping in the next month or so will have the new system.
I dont have a replacement for the Backplate but you could replace the old SSC with the new one. No huge advantage in doing that though since the old one works just fine. If you have a backplate it would be starting all over to put the new system in and we are not offering that yet with no ETA on aftermarket to be clear. It just isnt on my radar yet. The new SSCII replaces everything and can be put on almost any of our guitars. On the older system we could only put it on a Classic S or T. The new system can also go on the standard as well as a T without adding a top.

 

[arcduelist]

Anything shipping in the next month or so will have the new system.
I dont have a replacement for the Backplate but you could replace the old SSC with the new one. No huge advantage in doing that though since the old one works just fine. If you have a backplate it would be strating all over to put the new system in and we are not offering that yet with no ETA on aftermarket to be clear. It just isnt on my radar yet. The new SSCII replaces everything and can be put on almost any of our guitars. On the older system we could only put it on a Classic S or T. The new system can also go on the standard as well as a T without adding a top.

Hi sir, will the new system come out on aftermarket this year? I'm planning to get the old one but if the new system comes out soon, i guess i can wait. Also, will it be as expensive as the old one? Thanks!

 

[Oso]

Hi sir, will the new system come out on aftermarket this year? I'm planning to get the old one but if the new system comes out soon, i guess i can wait. Also, will it be as expensive as the old one? Thanks!

I cant say on that yet.
We dont sell the old one but Ilitch does. FYI
No it will not be.

 

[Tubevalvemaniac]

If it will be not be as expensive as the old one, it means it will cost same or less.
Does it mean that new system is just better adapted (simplified to extent) to variety of Suhr guitars, but essentialy is in same ballpark of supressing hum as old one?
Frankly, I can't find any reason to change anything on SSCI originally equipped Suhr guitar.

 

[bluesking55]

Cant u take the old system with a reverse wound and wire it to cancel hum in 1,3 and 5 and let 2/4 do wha it does. Thought i read that here, just wanna clarify

 

[Oso]

If it will be not be as expensive as the old one, it means it will cost same or less.
Does it mean that new system is just better adapted (simplified to extent) to variety of Suhr guitars, but essentialy is in same ballpark of supressing hum as old one?
Frankly, I can't find any reason to change anything on SSCI originally equipped Suhr guitar.

It is actually working just as well on the low frequency noise and better on high frequency noise, it makes a single coil more quiet than a humbucker. Anyone who gets the new system will get a credit once we nail down the price. It is a little more complicated than the old system but small (easier install) . It is also manufactured by us, and no third party licensing fees or manufacturing costs so this is the reason the cost will come down. By the end of this months shipping we should be switched over. If you want an aftermarket solution now, Ilitch is still selling backplates. That is about all I can say right now due to some patent applications.

 

[Crow]

Really looking forward to the aftermarket solution! Hope it comes about soon.

Thanks for the preliminary information John.

 

[ahardmark]

The new system can also go on the standard as well as a T without adding a top.

Interesting! I'm surprised you can put the new system on a T without adding a top. Very cool!

 

[Tubevalvemaniac]

It is actually working just as well on the low frequency noise and better on high frequency noise, it makes a single coil more quiet than a humbucker.

It is intriguing.
I have two Suhrs (Strat and Tele) with originally built SSC and yes they are quiet, often quieter than humbuckers, still some very small noise is there that I don't consider a problem. Interestingly, Tele sounds even like better implementation of SSC.
It would be cool to get some comparisons (noise floor data measured on different frequencies) ot two axes equipped with SSC v1 and v2 (with same PUs/electronics).

 

[MrDoty]

I have the bpssc and get noise at 4955hz but it's not so bad when you consider what a normal SC puts off. It's a good deal.

 

[Last Nerve]

I have a Classic S scheduled for June/July completion.
As soon as I can, I'm gonna add the hew SSC vII to my order.
Also going to send in my Classic T for the vII retrofit, as soon as it is available.

 

[Oso]

Anyone know the details on the new Suhr system?

I'm interested to know if it will still require 3 pickups of the same polarity and winding direction (no RW/RP middle) and if it's available on non-Suhr guitars.

Yes it should unless you choose different combinations.
You could get in to a phase switch and other complexities but the basic physics says yes they need to be the same.

For instance you could have the system bypass in the combos and the middle position would be all 3 or the outside two. It can now handle 3 different outputs and can be dialed in for a single coil split. We also can offer it in our standard series where as it couldn't go in one before. It is not available for non Suhr guitars and I couldn't give you a date on that being a possibility.

 

[Oso]

I have the bpssc and get noise at 4955hz but it's not so bad when you consider what a normal SC puts off. It's a good deal.

The SSCII does not have that but it is not available as after market yet either.
Trust me, there is no noise issue. The SSCII is much more quiet than a humbucker.