Yea I wanted one too cause I prefer the TC chorus/reverb/delays over the Line 6 ones, but no 4cm really ruined it for me. I mean, its not just the drives, because that I could live with.. Its the drives/compressor/wahs in the front, or chorus/delays/reverbs in the loop.. Such a stupid design IMO.I really liked the Nova system, EXCEPT no 4 cable method, and it really affected the tone when no effects were on. The drives were surprisingly good, better than some boutique pedals that I have owned. The delays and reverbs were great of course. I had to choose either loop, which of course meant no OD pedals, or in front which meant no delays or reverb because I use amp distortion quite a bit. Ended up selling to a friend who just uses it in front of the amp, and all his dirt from the Nova system into a clean amp. That is where it shines the best, and makes it a no go for what I am doing.