New to boutique gear; looking for a blackface sound

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  1. ap1

    ap1 Member

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    I've been using a blackface Twin for years now, and have recently been encouraged to do some experimenting with boutiques whose design and sound is akin to that Fender model. I like a nice clean sound, which just starts to break up at higher volumes; for OD I'm happy just throwing a box in the chain. I've not had a chance to look at too much, just the Bruno Cow Tipper 45, which I do like.
    So I'm wondering if anyone can suggest similarly designed/sounding amps. They could be single or dual channel, heads or combos.

    On another note, are there any amps which bridge the gap between, say, mass-produced and boutique? Or mass-produced amps which are a notch above the traditional workhorses yet whose prices don't quite reach the boutique level?


    Any input appreciated. Thanks!
     
  2. Leonc

    Leonc Wild Gear Hearder Gold Supporting Member

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    The Cow Tipper is a great amp. Very, very refined sounding. Very smooth. Smoother than Fenders. Is that good? You'll have to answer that one yourself. They're very expensive and don't fit in the 'gap' you've described.

    I think you may want to look at a few Heritage models. Some of them capture some very Fender-ish sounds. They are high quality amps but don't cost you an arm and leg--i.e., I think they bridge the gap you've refered to. They are a good value.

    You should also check out the Reverend Hellhound and the Groove Tubes Soul-o-45. Again, well constructed, with some great Fender sounds but tremendous value, particularly when bought used.
     
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    You should look at David Allen's stuff at Allen Amplification. He has some great Blackface-type models. The Fargen Blackbird and the Clark Rockford are also worth checking out.
     
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    Allen Old Flame, end of story. If I were in the market for BF tone, I would get an Old Flame or an Encore, in a 2x10 arrangement. Actually, if I had the MONEY, I would buy one of the two of them and set it next to my Vicky. But alas, I am poor. I've had two experiences with Old Flames, and both were among the best BF sounding amps I've ever heard.
     
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    Big thumbs up on Allen Amps! Old Flame has Reverb, but no Trem. Encore has both. According to his website (www.allenamps.com) the Old Flame is undergoing some updates, due out in September. These amps capture the Fender Blackfacevibe with a few nice twists, such as the Raw control, which dials out the tone stack giving the amp earlier breakup and more grind. His prices are very reasonable and he also sell amps in kit form if you are so included to DIY.

    -KD
     
  7. Blue Strat

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    Allen Amplification.
     
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    cr8z4life Silver Supporting Member

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    Also check out Top Hat.....the Ambassador 35 or if you need more clean headroom and less breakup the 50......I had the 35 and loved it.....took pedals better than anything I have owned. Next to the divided by thirteens I have now gone to I think Top Hats are great.....and the are priced right
     
  9. BarneyFife

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    Tone King Meteor II is a player in this league.
     
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    Check out the Bruno Cow Tippers if you want the best I've heard. I've got a CT22, and yes it SMOKES most everything else I've heard. :)

    I actually have an Allen on order (Encore 2X10), so in about a month I'll be able to speak more to them. I've read nothing be good things and David has been great to deal with.
     
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    I'm getting that BF itch again too. Most curious about the CT 35, as the 45 is such a knockout amp. (Sort of BF, but not really. Whatever it is, es muy bueno.) The Gries 35 watter and Michael Clark's Rockford are also on my "gotta try one of these" list.
     
  12. hemlock

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    It's a discontinued model, but keep an eye out for a Carr Imperial. Awesome cleans with tons of headroom.
     
  13. Kiwi

    Kiwi Silver Supporting Member

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    I like a nice clean sound, which just starts to break up at higher volumes;

    You might also enjoy playing a blackface Fender with less power and stiffness than your Twin. Try a BF Band Master, or BF Tremolux, from the 1960s. Neither are expensive.

    =K
     
  14. Moods

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    +1

    For the price of a booteek amp you can still get a very decent blackface Pro Reverb... half the power of your twin. While there are some great new amps out there that get into this territory, none will be much less expensive than the real deal... and none will sound any better or, in most cases, as good as an old blackface IMO.

    YMMV

    <M
     
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    Allen all the way.
     
  16. ap1

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    Lots here; this is obviously going to be a long and protracted search...
    And don't anybody say "yeah, and it never ends"

    Thanks folks!
     
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    if you're in the US: allen
    otherwise: clark
     
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    Check out Mike clark, Clark Amplification also. He does things one way: RIGHT!
     
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    David Allen has taken the fender line from princeton on up and done what people would do "hotrodding wise" if they didn't want to "preserve" the vintage value. I've played the Sweetspot and the old flame both are killer amps.
     

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