NGD: Sold my R9 and got a Standard instead!

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  1. pickslide

    pickslide Supporting Member

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    I let go of a great R0 and ended up with a 2001 standard that I love. Tones and playability are the same to me. There was more, what I would call for lack of a better term, refinement to the R0...it was a very well made guitar, but ultimately for me it was not worth the extra money.
     
  2. guitarnut_1

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    If it plays and feels good... it's all good!
     
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  3. Kmaz

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    I would have held on to that R9. ;)
     
  4. icecreman

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    I don't understand why anyone takes issue with the weight relieved bodies. If anything it makes them superior (modern weight relief not the swiss cheese ones) to solid. There's absolutely no change in sound plus they're lighter and more balanced. It's a win win. Just because it wasn't done in the 50's doesn't make it bad now.

    Oh wait... someone on an Internet forum said it was bad so it must be. Forgot where I was for a moment. :cool:

    Congrats on the guitar OP! Much nicer looking in my opinion.
     
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  5. Coldacre

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    they feed back more at higher volumes
     
  6. icecreman

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    Ummm... no they don't. A hollow body would but not a weight relieved body. Not enough wood missing and no open holes for the feedback to happen.
     
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  7. Coldacre

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    my experience playing Standards with Modern Weight Relief against Customs/Traditionals is that they feedback at an earlier point.

    you can't take out all that wood and not have it affect the way the guitar responds
     
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    I would rather buy a guitar with high quality light wood, instead of compensating by weight relieving a heavy lug of a piece of wood.. Just my thoughts
     
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  9. Coldacre

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    I'm 6"4 and weigh 220 pounds. a 9.5 lbs Les Paul doesn't bother me in the slightest. plenty of solid body Custom / Traditional's in that weight range. if I wanted a light guitar I'd be playing an SG.
     
  10. fuzzface71

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    Are 2005 swiss cheesed? I believed only from 2006 and on?
     
  11. icecreman

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    Yes it is but it doesn't matter. You'd never hear a difference in sound between that and a solid one. A fully chambered one would be a different story.
     
  12. icecreman

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    Fully Chambered. You can hear a difference in sound.
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    Weight relieved (your guitar) or swiss cheese as some say. No difference in sound
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    Modern Weight relief. No difference in sound.
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    for my playing, I consider that a feature, not a bug.

    of course I put unpotted pickups in my historic.

    oh but I do greatly prefer the solid Les Pauls and both of my last two historics have been 8.5 lbs without the need for any weight relieving.
     
  14. AudioWonderland

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    You really didn't need to baby the R9 and the std is just as likely to get stolen. Anyone out stealing guitars won't know the difference or care.
     
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    Based on neck shape alone, R8-9 feels right for me. A shame you have to go almost Custom Shop to get that. Same goes for 335s. Most of them have the 60's profile... I hear this year is different, though.
     
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    No difference in sound compared to what? All things being equal a weight relieved guitar is going to sound "different" than a solid one. It may be small but the differences in body mass will effect the tone signature of the guitar.
     
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  17. icecreman

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    No difference in sound to a solid body LP. Sorry, I thought that was assumed since we're talking LP's.
     
  18. Coldacre

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    yes there IS a difference in sound. I hear it. it resonates differently, the notes at loud volume descend into feedback at a faster rate. they sound different when you play the unplugged.

    just stating "no difference in sound" contradicts what many people find from personal experience.

    look at all of those holes; that's a lot of sawdust on the floor.
     
  19. Coldacre

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    hey if it works for you - use it. it's the reason Noel Gallagher went from Les Pauls to ES-type guitars. he'd play those big opening chords at the start of songs that required feedback.
     
  20. custom53

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    Both are beautiful Guitars.. Love the Tops on both of them.. Is there anyway you could have kept the R9 and got the Standard also..? But, I'm like you, I feel comfortable with either one. But I own a R9 and a Standard.. Along with a Axcess.. I will reach for the R9 and the Standard before the Axcess even though it is a good guitar too. Just love the Standard and R9. I would be just as happy with either one if I could only own one guitar..

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