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Nik Huber Krautster II - but on a hobby budget

Darth Jeb

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I really like the look and the idea of the Krautster II. I had a double-agent years ago, but the body size was too small for me. I am not a pro musician, I like to play, but the investment into a guitar for a few grand is not feasible.

I know this is a rabbit hole question/idea, but is there a guitar body style like the Krautster out there that is more affordable that I could add my own P90 in the neck and a Humbucker in the bridge? I like the simplicity of toggle, volume, and tone. I have never been a master of the Gibson 4 knob system.

In random Reverb moments I have looked at a Player Series Telecaster (with two humbuckers), Yamaha Revstar, and the Santana Custom PRS SE (yellow) - caveat never played any of these.

Thanks to all!
 

Bossanova

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I really like the look and the idea of the Krautster II. I had a double-agent years ago, but the body size was too small for me. I am not a pro musician, I like to play, but the investment into a guitar for a few grand is not feasible.

I know this is a rabbit hole question/idea, but is there a guitar body style like the Krautster out there that is more affordable that I could add my own P90 in the neck and a Humbucker in the bridge? I like the simplicity of toggle, volume, and tone. I have never been a master of the Gibson 4 knob system.

In random Reverb moments I have looked at a Player Series Telecaster (with two humbuckers), Yamaha Revstar, and the Santana Custom PRS SE (yellow) - caveat never played any of these.

Thanks to all!
The krautster body style is a single cut Les paul special, by Gibson. If you get a guitar that is HH you can easily get a P90 that fits into a Humbucker route. So the last question is, do you prefer slim or chunky necks?
 

justonwo

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It seems like a Les Paul special of some denomination would work, along with a humbucker-sized P-90. You’re still stuck with a 4 knob control, though.
 

Bossanova

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Here’s a budget option:

A little more:

There are also pickups that sound like a humbucker but are p90 size. So the best way to get what you want is to get either a 2xP90 or a 2xHB guitar and swap 1 pickup.
 

Bossanova

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Good point. Seems like the easiest route to take.
Although I’d never ever recommend doing this… Having 2 wildly different pickups in the same guitar really calls for 2v 2t to get the most from each. I’d suggest OP learn to use the 4-knob configuration wired 50s style to keep the independent voices and have max flexibility in the middle position.
 

BADHAK

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Krautster is a fancy LP Special. Just get a budget Gibson and mod to your hearts content (though I'm not sure why the genius Gibson 2v/2t is difficult to master)

My 06 Faded LP Special with Pearly Gates is the best guitar I've ever played and it's very affordable.
 

Bossanova

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Krautster is a fancy LP Special. Just get a budget Gibson and mod to your hearts content (though I'm not sure why the genius Gibson 2v/2t is difficult to master)

My 06 Faded LP Special with Pearly Gates is the best guitar I've ever played and it's very affordable.
I love PGs. Bright A5 humbuckers are my thing lately. My next build is going to be a HH and have a BKP Mississippi Queen neck and Riff Raff bridge.
 

Darth Jeb

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The krautster body style is a single cut Les paul special, by Gibson. If you get a guitar that is HH you can easily get a P90 that fits into a Humbucker route. So the last question is, do you prefer slim or chunky necks?
I like my necks chunky!
 

Darth Jeb

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Krautster is a fancy LP Special. Just get a budget Gibson and mod to your hearts content (though I'm not sure why the genius Gibson 2v/2t is difficult to master)

My 06 Faded LP Special with Pearly Gates is the best guitar I've ever played and it's very affordable.
I am a simple man. I honestly feel more connected to the simplicity of the Fender knob situation. I have always gravitated towards Strats and Tele's. Maybe it's conditioning?
 

Darth Jeb

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Although I’d never ever recommend doing this… Having 2 wildly different pickups in the same guitar really calls for 2v 2t to get the most from each. I’d suggest OP learn to use the 4-knob configuration wired 50s style to keep the independent voices and have max flexibility in the middle position.
Ok.
 

Darth Jeb

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Here’s a budget option:

A little more:

There are also pickups that sound like a humbucker but are p90 size. So the best way to get what you want is to get either a 2xP90 or a 2xHB guitar and swap 1 pickup.
I really like the sound of the Saturday Night Special Humbucker.
 

fossilfuel

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A Gibson BFG?

Not the same shape, but come in that pickup configuration are a G&L Fallout (Tribute more budget friendly),
or a Yamaha Pacifica.

I put a set of TV Jones Magnatrons into a LP Special and they sound great, you could always keep the neck P90.
 

BADHAK

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I am a simple man. I honestly feel more connected to the simplicity of the Fender knob situation. I have always gravitated towards Strats and Tele's. Maybe it's conditioning?
I gravitate towards Gibsons but it hasn't stopped me from owning a Tele(and other Fenders previously) and investing time in learning how the controls work. I understand that people can prefer things like scale length or humbuckers vs singles, but rejecting a guitar(that by every other metric is ideal)because it has a couple of extra controls seems counterproductive IMO.
 

Bossanova

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rejecting a guitar(that by every other metric is ideal)because it has a couple of extra controls seems counterproductive IMO.
People like what they like. And what they’re “used to.” I can’t fault anyone for that, although I’m pretty sure that a 2v 2t 50s setup is the greatest. I know how to work it regardless of the pickup configuration, and don’t have to think about it on stage.
 

OotMagroot

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I've always questioned why Warmoth does not offer a non-carved, flat-top LP type body.

I'd definitely look at Reverend. They have quite a few HB/P90 equipped guitars.

Also, if a carved top is not out of the question, there's always the option of going with Epiphone and putting a P90 sized thing in the neck. You could remove a set of volume and tones and plug the holes with wooden hole plugs. If you get a burst/transparent top, you could even use a furniture repair pen (usually, $10ish on Amazon) to colorize the wooden plugs to match. Of course, you can also get plastic hole plugs in chrome, black and white (white might look cool with a guitar that has a solid color top with white binding).
 






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