No FX Loop. Where does the Delay Go?

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  1. Hendog

    Hendog Member

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    If you have no FX Loop and you get your dirt from the amp, where do you put your Delay?
     
  2. guitarlix

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    I'd like to know too
     
  3. Senor Forum

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    Up front...?

    I find that with most amps with no FX loop, an analog up front works WAY better than a digital delay.

    :bow

    There's always the whole wet-dry thing, but I've never messed with that.
     
  4. SgtThump

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    In a box in the closet.
     
  5. Dana Olsen

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    This trick is known as the "poor man's effects loop": The catch is that it only works on amps with 2 channels and 4 inputs, like a BF Fender.

    Plug the guitar into input 1 of the reverb channel (in a BF Fender). Use a "jumper" cable to jump from input #2 to the delay pedal's input. Take the output of the delay pedal and plug it into input #1 of the OTHER channel.

    Now, use the vol knob of the other channel as your delay return - adjust tone to taste.

    It's not ideal, but it works pretty well once you get used to it.

    That's one way, thanks, Dana O.
     
  6. Hendog

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    Sarge! I rely on your opinion, man!

    For real, what do you do? Not use Delay or run it in front? How does it sound?
     
  7. sublimeaudio

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    Plenty of people put the delay in their pedal chain in the last position before the amp. Works great for me!
     
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    Might also run a overdrive pedal then delay into the front, try to get more dirt from the drive pedal than the amp.

    Pete
     
  9. rob2001

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    I pretty much agree but it depends how much amp dirt you run. The only way I know around it is to use just a bit of dirt from the amp, then run a dirt pedal into a delay in front of that.
     
  10. rob2001

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    Beat me to it!!


    The other option is to have an FX loop installed. For the cost of some of these dirt boxes you can probably get a quality loop installed.
     
  11. rob2001

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    With a gained out amp or dirt from the pedals in your sig?
     
  12. Papajuice

    Papajuice Silver Supporting Member

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    I use amp dirt, and keep all 3 delay's in front no problems. I am just to cheap at moment to get anothe two 25ft cables.
     
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    I generally have my amps set to be pretty clean and use pedals to dirty things up. Most of the songs I ever use delay on, I'm going for a clean sound anyway.
     
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    You beat me to it!
    Couldn't agree more.
     
  15. Lublin

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    Basically, this.

    I had an AC15 which I used for all of my dirt and your amp's preamp is distorting the delays. Works for some, not for me.

    I just picked up an AC30 w/ effects loop. Problem solved.
     
  16. D4vidgd

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    Amen brotha.
     
  17. Hendog

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    So why would a solid builder like Fryette NOT put a loop in the Deliverance?
     
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    Merry Christmas!

    I was trying to be funny. ;)

    You can use a delay pedal between the guitar and amp and some people really like that, but I can't stand it myself! If you use distortion from the amp, the delay repeats will be distorted and just not sound good to me. You can turn the delay down super low to help with that, but then it will be too quiet to hear in a band setting. I'd rather just go without.
     
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    To get the tone he wanted from the amp or maybe just to build something different for a change. All of his other amps have tons of features, so the Deliverance amps are quite a bit different than his other designs.

    Great amps!
     
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