Noise?!

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  1. IamKrisJones

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    Hello All!
    I wasn't sure where to post this but I figured this was a good place to start since it's amp related.
    The wiring in my home is not the best and there's a lot of things that cause noises in my amps regardless if I have the guitar plugged in or not. It's just noisey. Normally I don't mind it but I am looking to record and make demos. What can I do to cut out some of the noise? High end power bars? Furman? Something else? Any help is appreciated.
    Thanks
    Kris
     
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    So power conditioners will fix noise issues? Is the voltage what causes noise or is it just because a filter is part of conditioners?
     
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    The noise could be due to noise on the power line or varying AC level. Some conditioners have filters for noise while others regulate the AC level. You'd have to use a volt meter to verify if AC level is part of the problem.
     
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    What kind of amp is it? Some amps are just hissy, especially high-gain types.
     
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    It's actually through multiple amps. They are mainly vintage.

    '61 Fender Pro Amp
    '73 Hiwatt DR-103
    Bogen Challenger HF-10

    I am thinking the voltage might be the issue. I had a friend install brand new outlets and wiring in my basement directly into the fuse box thinking it would fix the issue but the noise is still there.
     
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    Check the wiring to make sure it is correct.

    You can buy a plug in tester for ~$5.

    I don't think a regular line conditioner will help you.

    Some houses or areas are just nosier than others.
    Industrial areas are known to put out noise due to large electric motors and other machines.

    Can you describe the noise?

    Hum

    frying bacon

    hissing

    White noise
     
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    Ive also been going through this. I also have a clone amp of a JTM45 with original spec transformers and tubes and it was really noisy and running really hot.

    I blame it for torching an NOS Marconi Orram KT66. So I had to buy another Matched pair and we all know that aint cheap.

    So my friend has Both the Furman P1800AR and the Furman P1800PR and combines them.

    He let me use his stuff for a month and not 1 time did my amp run hot or was it noisy. Its dead quiet and runs only warm.

    So.. I decided to go in this direction but wanted something in 1 Box if possible and also 20 AMP.

    Being only a couple/few hundred $$$$ more money that buying both of the other units I put on Layaway a FURMAN SPR 20i.

    It is also more accurate in regulation... But in reality for my application it probably doesnt make much difference but I like the idea of the higher 20 amp circuit ability and 55 amps of reserve.

    But the difference is measurable so I just went with this unit. + its 1 unit instead of 2.

    But for the Minimum amount of money... and still expensive...... and the best possible regulation money can buy the Furman P1800AR and P1800PR is the way to go.

    All touring bands ect use Power conditioning and regulation or the venues they play have them. Or both.

    Heres some bands that use Furman products.

    All-American Rejects
    Dave Amato (REO Speedwagon)
    Anthrax (Joey Belladonna)
    Atreyu
    Autumn Black
    Better Luck Next Time
    Big Papa & TCB
    Black Tide
    Blue Sun
    The Brew
    Jimmy Buffett
    Alice Cooper
    Counting Crows
    Cranberries
    The Dandy Warhols
    Dead Lift
    Death Angel
    Def Leppard
    Diamond Rio
    Gail Ann Dorsey (Gwen Stefani/David Bowie)
    Drop8
    Eminence
    Fairwell
    Fear Factory
    Fear of Clowns
    Federated Crush
    Five Finger Death Punch
    Mondo Garcia (Tech for Chicago)
    Chuck Garric (Alice Cooper)
    Tom Gioia
    Goo Goo Dolls
    Leslie Gray (Soulcatcher)
    Habit of Force (Rich Collins)
    Ben Harper
    Hep Cat Boo Daddies
    Hinder
    Jason Hook (Alice Cooper)
    Inept
    Tony Iommi (Black Sabbath)
    Chris Isaak
    Isodora
    John 5
    Duane T. Jones
    Keri Kelli (Alice Cooper)
    Michael Lewis (Radical Tone/Jon Anderson)
    LoNero
    Lonestar
    Luvplanet (Mark McGee)
    Machine Head
    Eric Mantel
    Monkeysoop (Erica Missey & Jerry Connor)
    Mystic Roots Band
    Frank Nemola
    Thomas Nordegg (Guitar tech for Steve Vai)
    Nurtured in Purple
    Ryan Ochsner
    Papa Roach
    Pato Banton
    Pearl Jam
    Tim Pierce
    Plain White T's
    Prince
    The Rider on the White Horse
    Remembrance
    Room Eleven
    Rose Hill Drive
    RUSH
    Vasco Rossi
    Scenes From a Movie
    Salida 7
    Seraphim
    Shinedown
    Eric Singer (Alice Cooper)
    Shirock
    Slayer (Jeff Hanneman and Tom Araya)
    Slipknot
    Maurizio Solieri
    Stone Sour
    The System After
    Steve Vai
    Butch Walker
    Wilco
    X.R.P.M.
     
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    Amps properly serviced with grounded cords?
     
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    Yes indeed :)

    Will get a sound clip for you guys so you can hear the noise but I do believe I will have to fork out for a Furman..... :(
     
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    What's the difference between their lower end Furman M-8x as opposed to the ones mentioned above?
     
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    It looks like the M-8x just filters out the RF noise that rides on top of the AC power signal. The other more expensive units mentioned above control the AC level so it's always very close to 120V (in the US at least) by the time it gets to your amp.
     
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    They offer different levels of regulation, line interference filtering, surge suppression vs. mulit-stage surge suppression and a bunch of other stuff. Mx8 does have voltage regulation. +-5%

    The M-8x doesn't have the Clear Tone which make the unit more compatible with High Impedance Devices like guitar amps or stereo systems that have subs that require steady power.

    The more sophisticated units have higher levels of protection filtering and regulation. There can be alot of difference. Not saying the lower end 1's aren't good either. Theyre almost $500 they better do something ???
    It does what it says.

    Im just going for the more expensive unit because this is a really nice piece it is convenient to have in 1 unitand its reviews are great it and it also has a 5 years Warranty and costs only $300 more than the P1800AR and P1800PR combination and I get better protection, 5 more amps per input, 10 more amps reserve capacity. 55 vs 45.
    So I went with the SPR 20i.
    The M8x is a good unit. Its like anything else you have to pay to get certain things. .
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    Amazing answers from everybody! Thanks guys :D
     
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    Just wondering do the amps make alot of noise or sound fine when you play them in other places besides your house?
    Have you got fluorescent lights or dimmers ?
     
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    Sorry for the delay. Been really busy with work and shows.
    Yes we have dimmers but no fluoresents. Something I have also noticed which may chime in to the issue. My tuner always seems to go to ''B'' when in the loop. Is that 60 cycle hum?
     

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