Noisy springs on my Suhr

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  1. per erik

    per erik Member

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    Hello.
    I have a lovely Suhr pro as my main guitar,but the springs makes a squeeking sound when I am using the tremolo.I hoped this was only a temporarely problem when the guitar was new,but unfortunately not,this is kind of annoying at low volume and clean amp settings.I hope someone out there can help sort this problem out.
    Thanks Per Erik
     
  2. Long2Play

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    Trem springs sometimes do this depending on the tension placed on them. Sometimes re-adjusting the trem claw with an additional spring will solve it. Was the guitar recently set up with heavier strings than factory? If that happened and the claw was just cranked, then those springs will "Sing" because they are stretched out trying to hold the additional string tension. Or, was the claw cranked to stop any trem "Float"? In either case, one additional spring and relaxing the claw position will solve this.

    The stretched out springs are singing......
     
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  3. per erik

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    Thanks for quick response,I have always used 10-46 strings on the guitar ,different brand though.The guitar is set up exactly as new.I will try to put on a additional spring and relaxing the claw position to see if that will solve the problem.Thanks from the fjords of Norway!
    Per Erik
     
  4. BluePowder

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    Perhaps a little lubrication is in order, I experienced the same problem as you but on a different guitar. It was a EJ Strat, what I did in the end was to apply some lube to the points where the springs hooked on the trem block. In the end problem solved!
     
  5. per erik

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    Hi Bluepowder.
    What kind of lubricant do you have in mind?
    Per Erik
     
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    :agree

    Lube the contact points.

    Also, I use heat shrink tube to wrap the whole spring. Just heat the tube so it's wrapping the spring but not tightly.

    This will mute any noise that may be there from the springs.
     
  7. DavidH

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    Anything should do really.Some oil,or some wax chain lube from a cycle shop is probably best because it stays put.
     
  8. BluePowder

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    I agree with DavidH, use something that sticks. I used Chapstick, or just regular lip balm or even a little bit of vaseline. :D

    The heat shrink idea sounds pretty cool, but sometimes, I have to admit I enjoy the natural "reverb" that trem springs provide. Though it can be a little noise too.
     
  9. diego

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    I've cut a piece of a sponge and put it between trem springs and the body to quiet them down.
     
  10. Luke

    Luke Senior Member

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    The perfect foam from this comes from the Seymour Duncan humbucker packaging.
     
  11. fusionbear

    fusionbear exquirentibus veritatem Gold Supporting Member

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    I use the closed cell foam that is used to seal windows, but only on my noisy guitars.
     
  12. aron

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    If you look, the Suhr spring has foam inside it.
     
  13. George Johnson

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    One of my Suhrs arrived with this very type of foam under the springs.
     
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    We gear pagers are smart.
     
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    Any body got pics of this?

    I used to put cotton in the trem springs to quiet all that down, but it didn't take long to realize that this was causing some major tuning issues for my customers. Anything inside, around or touching the springs can interfere with the "zero" point and tuning stability.
     
  16. JJGray

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    Just a curious question. Are you the original owner of your Suhr Pro?

    Although I don't own a Pro, I do own nine Suhr Standards and Moderns, and every one of them already have pre-cut sponges inserted into the core of the springs, and they're dead quiet.

    If you aren't the original owner, and your springs do not have sponges inside them, I'd bet the the original owner swapped out the springs. Just my two cents.

    John
     
  17. Husky

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    Dont change anything on the setup!

    Contact us directly we can get rid of it for you
    A little Vaseline smeared on the springs and a very small drop of 3in1 oil anyplace metal contacts metal.
    It could be in the nut as well so keep some pencil lead in the nut slots and make sure you can pull the string straight out of the nut slot without feeling a pinch. Let me know how it works out and dont hesitate to contact me directly, PM or Email or call !
     
  18. amc

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    we are very lucky here at tgp that john suhr and many other builders respond to these
    issues right here online..........
     
  19. baimun

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    I was just commenting the other day about this particular page on this website being my favorite on the web because of all the unique, innovative luthiers all posting.

    It's one thing to get feedback from a site dedicated to one maker, but some can take on a fervor that any conversation, comparison, or (God forbid) a criticism is shot down as heritical blasphemy.

    This is great open forum for discussing ideas, tips, and views particularly for an amature like me who exists in the grey area between guitar "assembler" and "budding luthier".:BEER
     
  20. Sikor

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    Not necessarily. I have got my S3 half year ago new and my guitar does not havy any sponges inside the springs.
    I am thinking now about putting some inside.
     

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