Non-Marshall sounding high gain pedals

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  1. theGhost

    theGhost Supporting Member

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    The pedal doesn't have to be a "metal" pedal, but in my searching I've noticed a ridiculous amount of pedals all trying to get either what they call the "cranked J_M" sound or that "brown" sound or that "marshall-in-a-box" sound.

    I'm not saying I hate the marshall sound (I just bought a BYOC Shredder), but I am wondering about pedals that are decidedly non-marshall sounding. For example, I love the sound of Steve Fryette's amps (whatever you wanna call them). Where's the "pitbull-in-a-box" pedal?

    Also, I know there's a couple out there whose creators have explicitly stated some of the sounds they were going for which were more Bogner or Mesa or something, but I wanna know about more of these.

    The only ones that really come to mind at the moment that I know of are the Tonefreak SEVERE and the Suhr Riot - probably because they are the flavor of the month right now. What other pedals would you characterize as "definitely NOT Marshall-like?
     
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    FWIW

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    I'd never buy one.

    There are also a ton of Dumble-in-a-box pedals and at least one TrainWreck-in-a-box. Hang out a while, you'll see.
     
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    AMT California
    AMT Du Hast
    AMT B1 (Bogner-esque)
    AMT P1 (Peavey 5150-esque)
    AMT R1 (Mesa-esque)
    Catalinbread Super Charged Overdrive (Orange-esque)
    Hughes and Kettner Tube Factor
    Menatone None More Black (Diezel-esque?!?)

    There are plenty more out there, but these are some of the few non-Marshall-esque pedals that immediately come to mind.
     
  5. theGhost

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    To the rocktron... I thought about buying one of those about 5 years ago, but the clips I found sounded like ass.

    And yea... I know about the AMT pedals for sure, as well as the character series from Tech 21. thanks for the other suggestions too...
     
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    As do the amps they simulate, so you might say that they sound exactly like they supposed to.
     
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    clearly you have no appreciation for a rectifier then.

    The zombie is supposed to be a "rectified" distortion emulating the Dual Rec. I owned a single and a triple for a time, and while I can understand how they're not everyone's cup of tea, they still sound very badass. I don't think anyone who really appreciates guitar tone could honestly say that a properly dialed rectifier sounds like ass...
     
  8. Guitar Josh

    Guitar Josh Resident Curmudgeon Silver Supporting Member

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    Ghost check out my review of the Tone Freak Severe. Basically, it is a high gain Bogner/VHT style high pedal, and just slays.
     
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    that reference to it in my OP was because of your review ;) although I do admit that the clips I heard on his website for the SEVERE were pretty unimpressive for me personally because the lowend sounded chunky and mushy instead of tight and articulate as I prefer, but I would definitely agree that it does not seem marshall-esque to me
     
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    anything "dumble" voiced. zendrive, wampler ecstacy, hao rumble mod, ethos.
    you might also try something with a preamp tube like a tube driver / zen 2. Not at all "marhsally"

    Someone said the barber small fry - which is interesting... I think you can dial in marshall-esque tones on that one (not as much as a super sport, but there is still a little marshall in there) but you can also get pretty close to a tighter gain zendrive sort of flavor.

    happy hunting
     
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    This is a good thread because it addresses a need where there is too much emphasis on one avenue of the industry. For instsance, it would be a an interesting challenge to get a pedal to simulate the Hiwatt Amp w/multiple cabs tone. Or anything to replicate amps generally unavailable like Supro, Standel and WEM. Rare Fender brown face's too, great idea!!
     
  13. TooManyHobbies

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    WIIO... cranked HiWatt... Once you can stop doing windmill A chords..... it actually ROCKS!
     
  14. Guitar Josh

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    Oh man, lol.

    Well, tell you what, we are expecting snow over the weekend in DC, so I can probably get some better Severe clips for you.

    Name a few songs in the vein of what you are looking for and I'll play them through the Severe so you can get a better idea of the pedal. I can use a LP, Strat, 335, PRS, whatever you have.
     
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    I'm also looking for the same thing, trying to find something that even though high gain still has the nice tight crunch of a Deizel or Soldano amp.
    It seems every pedal I check out is a "metal" high gain fizzy mess, or a marshall in a box with high mids and a loose bottom end

    I really like the tone of the Severe, just can't seem to find a Tone Freak dealer in Canada
     
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    Which one is a Trainwreck in a box?
     

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