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I am an inch away from purchasing the 100 Watt Ceriatone or this new Sebago Double Trouble "D" clone amp probably know one has heard of yet
http://www.sebagosound.com
So my problem is that I am torn between purchasing the Ceriatone and a new D clone called the Sebago Double Trouble. I am just past ready to buy and was seriously going to purchase the Sebago but he is so new and there are so little clips (basically nothing except what he has on his site which I'm told doesn't do it justice but are very nice) ..Someone here purchased a Sebago on youtube thoough but he didn't do enough in the youtube clips to sway me nor were there any real leads played (no offense, it just didn't help me but I appreciated your time).
Thing is the more I listen to the vast array of straight up playing Ceriatone OTS clips (i like it warmer than the HRM) the more I say geeze is this Sebago Double Trouble going to sound like that nice clean but violin sustained overdrive that all these amps are modeled from out of the box? I have some good amps, it is just I really think this tone is perfect for what I do and these two amps fit the budget.
I've actually played Fuchs. My friend had one and he is friends with the infamous Scott L on here (yeah I'm a jersey guy). Me and my friend were getting into boutique amps and I bought the Bogner Shiva and he got the Fuchs (good for him!). The Fuchs had something different than the Dumble sound but it was similar but the clean was terrible. The Bogner had an amazing vintage Fender clean Tone but the OD is all Marshall plexi open sounding. Both are great amps but not comparable although we both liked the Fuchs. We ran them using the same THD cab I bought. Bottom line the amps are complete different ends of the spectrum and although I think the Fuchs OD was cooler for my style. I should have bought a used one when I could!
So really I'm looking at the 13-1600 max price range. I just like that clean od "D" tone of The overdrive Surpreme like you hear in youtube of the swedish player jamming to a background of basic stringed instruments tuning up...I think its the only real Dumble Overdrive Supreme on you tube that is any good. So I think you guys know the sound I'm looking for? Sure I like Robben Ford but I still think my favorite stuff is done by Scott Henderson/his older Jazzy stuff from the THICK album not as much the bluesy but hell I like the blues too. I have my own sound and this clean od should be perfect fit and expose any flaws as any good amp should do.
Sebago Pros: American made, Owner will customize it (correctly) to work well with my stock neck pickup on my old srats that I prety much only play now and I hardly change from the stock neck pickup of my 62 ri he said he would use his 62 (probably no an early 80s bu cloe enough) and make sure it doesn't get muddied up so he is going to customize it a bit for me which is something no one has ever done for me. IT is Priced almost as well (if you get the 50 watt) and the sound clips on his site sound just like what I'm looking for except the problem they are all studio mixes. How can I be certain? I guess the one thing I liked with him is he said he would put a 30 day guarantee on it. So all I'd loose is my time (which too much has been wasted of already) and my shipping up and back. www.sebagosounds.com
Sebago Con: Only one good clip and it belongs to them. I do happen to believe however that any decent boutique or otherwise hand wired amp with clarity will expose and make an average or below player sound worse which is a good thing and again not to insult the guy here that posted the clips on his, they really didn't help. So I don't have a lot to go on other than he compared it with an owner of glasswerks and they both agreed it to be superior to glasswerks on the od side...but he is he owner so of course he will say that. Real nice and helpful guy so he does make me want to buy just to see if he is right but I will be real upset if i wasn't what it is claimed to be.
Ceriatone OTS Pros: A lot of good clips on youtube that sounds exactly what I want even the ones playing single coil strats got that cream harmonic sustain. Just go to you tube and there are plenty of good clips by actual owners and not the company.
Ceriatone Con: I hear the wait time is going to be many months..which is why I'd buy a zen or ethos pedal on ebay to get me by. It is possible I am just hearing better miced youtube clips as unless you have played either there is no way to tell at all and I haven't. I suppose it is possible that the parts are not as good as Sebago and the amp actually sounds like the clips on his site even though they re professionally recorded in which case the Sebago would give it a run for the money..But I don't know for sure!
So Fuchs is out (don't know what I'm getting anymore anyway), the glasswerks is out (although I wouldn't turn that away if I had the cash for tha) and so is Two Rock. All mainly because I can't spend that kind of money right now and although I could sell some equipment to compensate the difference I really just don't want to spend 4-5k when it really seems I can do as well or better for half that price between one of these two or at least i seems.
I guess does anyone have any decent Sebago Double Trouble experience or better any clips without effects OR is the consensus to just order and wait for the Ceriatone?
Or shall I play the beta tester here since he's offering my money back if I don't like it (except shipping), get it and if I like it, blast clips over the gear page and youtube! lol.
FYI my choice is Sebago 50 watt Double Trouble for 1600. (not enough clips) vs. a 100 Watt Ceriatone OTS (out of country but lots of good clips and dare I say the clips are better than the Fuchs, glasswerks, Two Rock etc. clips I've heard on youtube). I really think they got real close if not nailed it tone wise and wow the price is insanely inexpensive for what they are giving. Actually I think its 1300 with shipping.
I'm done with research as I've over researched my self... So any advice or input from these two amps would be appreciated.
http://www.sebagosound.com
So my problem is that I am torn between purchasing the Ceriatone and a new D clone called the Sebago Double Trouble. I am just past ready to buy and was seriously going to purchase the Sebago but he is so new and there are so little clips (basically nothing except what he has on his site which I'm told doesn't do it justice but are very nice) ..Someone here purchased a Sebago on youtube thoough but he didn't do enough in the youtube clips to sway me nor were there any real leads played (no offense, it just didn't help me but I appreciated your time).
Thing is the more I listen to the vast array of straight up playing Ceriatone OTS clips (i like it warmer than the HRM) the more I say geeze is this Sebago Double Trouble going to sound like that nice clean but violin sustained overdrive that all these amps are modeled from out of the box? I have some good amps, it is just I really think this tone is perfect for what I do and these two amps fit the budget.
I've actually played Fuchs. My friend had one and he is friends with the infamous Scott L on here (yeah I'm a jersey guy). Me and my friend were getting into boutique amps and I bought the Bogner Shiva and he got the Fuchs (good for him!). The Fuchs had something different than the Dumble sound but it was similar but the clean was terrible. The Bogner had an amazing vintage Fender clean Tone but the OD is all Marshall plexi open sounding. Both are great amps but not comparable although we both liked the Fuchs. We ran them using the same THD cab I bought. Bottom line the amps are complete different ends of the spectrum and although I think the Fuchs OD was cooler for my style. I should have bought a used one when I could!
So really I'm looking at the 13-1600 max price range. I just like that clean od "D" tone of The overdrive Surpreme like you hear in youtube of the swedish player jamming to a background of basic stringed instruments tuning up...I think its the only real Dumble Overdrive Supreme on you tube that is any good. So I think you guys know the sound I'm looking for? Sure I like Robben Ford but I still think my favorite stuff is done by Scott Henderson/his older Jazzy stuff from the THICK album not as much the bluesy but hell I like the blues too. I have my own sound and this clean od should be perfect fit and expose any flaws as any good amp should do.
Sebago Pros: American made, Owner will customize it (correctly) to work well with my stock neck pickup on my old srats that I prety much only play now and I hardly change from the stock neck pickup of my 62 ri he said he would use his 62 (probably no an early 80s bu cloe enough) and make sure it doesn't get muddied up so he is going to customize it a bit for me which is something no one has ever done for me. IT is Priced almost as well (if you get the 50 watt) and the sound clips on his site sound just like what I'm looking for except the problem they are all studio mixes. How can I be certain? I guess the one thing I liked with him is he said he would put a 30 day guarantee on it. So all I'd loose is my time (which too much has been wasted of already) and my shipping up and back. www.sebagosounds.com
Sebago Con: Only one good clip and it belongs to them. I do happen to believe however that any decent boutique or otherwise hand wired amp with clarity will expose and make an average or below player sound worse which is a good thing and again not to insult the guy here that posted the clips on his, they really didn't help. So I don't have a lot to go on other than he compared it with an owner of glasswerks and they both agreed it to be superior to glasswerks on the od side...but he is he owner so of course he will say that. Real nice and helpful guy so he does make me want to buy just to see if he is right but I will be real upset if i wasn't what it is claimed to be.
Ceriatone OTS Pros: A lot of good clips on youtube that sounds exactly what I want even the ones playing single coil strats got that cream harmonic sustain. Just go to you tube and there are plenty of good clips by actual owners and not the company.
Ceriatone Con: I hear the wait time is going to be many months..which is why I'd buy a zen or ethos pedal on ebay to get me by. It is possible I am just hearing better miced youtube clips as unless you have played either there is no way to tell at all and I haven't. I suppose it is possible that the parts are not as good as Sebago and the amp actually sounds like the clips on his site even though they re professionally recorded in which case the Sebago would give it a run for the money..But I don't know for sure!
So Fuchs is out (don't know what I'm getting anymore anyway), the glasswerks is out (although I wouldn't turn that away if I had the cash for tha) and so is Two Rock. All mainly because I can't spend that kind of money right now and although I could sell some equipment to compensate the difference I really just don't want to spend 4-5k when it really seems I can do as well or better for half that price between one of these two or at least i seems.
I guess does anyone have any decent Sebago Double Trouble experience or better any clips without effects OR is the consensus to just order and wait for the Ceriatone?
Or shall I play the beta tester here since he's offering my money back if I don't like it (except shipping), get it and if I like it, blast clips over the gear page and youtube! lol.
FYI my choice is Sebago 50 watt Double Trouble for 1600. (not enough clips) vs. a 100 Watt Ceriatone OTS (out of country but lots of good clips and dare I say the clips are better than the Fuchs, glasswerks, Two Rock etc. clips I've heard on youtube). I really think they got real close if not nailed it tone wise and wow the price is insanely inexpensive for what they are giving. Actually I think its 1300 with shipping.
I'm done with research as I've over researched my self... So any advice or input from these two amps would be appreciated.
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I'm still getting hammered on the paucity of good clips on the site evidently.
