Nut Replacement question?

Discussion in 'Luthier's Guitar & Bass Technical Discussion' started by war-knuckles, Feb 27, 2012.

  1. war-knuckles

    war-knuckles Supporting Member

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    potentially dumb question here... so i picked up an agile al-2000 off craigslist and im having a bit of a problem with open chords.. all the strings are in tune, and if i play any open chord it sounds off....

    does that mean the nut isnt slotted deep enough? ive been hearing that the nuts on those guitars are garbage, so i plan on replacing it, im just not sure of the explanation.

    has anyone changed the nut on these guitars? what kind of results did you have?
     
  2. Wag

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    While the guitar would most likely benefit from a new nut, you might want to check the relief in the neck before you make any other changes. I recently had similar problems with a Gibson LP. I was convinced it was the nut causing the problems. However, I found that after I took most of the bow out of the neck and put some heavier strings on it my sour notes on the low frets went away.
     
  3. EADGBE

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    Have you set the string compensation/intonation yet at the bridge? Are the strings old?
     
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    That would affect chords being in tune up the neck but the OP specifically said "open chords." I'm ASSUMING he means cowboy chords on the first few frets so the nut is most likely the problem.

    But, yeah, a complete basic set-up is probably in order: New Strings, Relief, Nut, Action, Intonation (in roughly that order).
     
  5. war-knuckles

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    strings are brand new, i adjusted the truss rod, and its intonated (well...as close as i can get it with this cheap bridge, ran out of play)

    but the main problem is the open chords on the first three frets.

    the strings are hybrid slinki... you think the top end is too light? its a 46-9 set... maybe i should try 11's?

    im going to order a new nut and a gotoh bridge later on, but is there any thing i can do to somewhat tame this problem aside from that?
     
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    It's the nut.

    Easy check: capo at the 1st fret. Tune it carefully. Is it easier to play and are 1st position chords more in tune now? Then the nut slots are definitely too high.
     
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    Every Agile I have seen is extremely well made with good materials.
    Have you changed strings? A bad string can cause this.
    I have an AL3000 and the nut it came stock with is as good as they get.
     

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