oblique barre chords??

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  1. DannyS

    DannyS Member

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    so I ran across this shape today and was very confused at first how to play it. the first finger barres on the 5th and 6th fret?!!? I never even considered such a move! Is there an official name for this? It totally blew my mind...
     
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  2. guitarjazz

    guitarjazz Member

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    The Ted Greene move.
     
  3. randalljazz

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    i use the cross-fret barre occasionally, but always in the other direction, that is, the lower string will be on a higher fret.

    this chord i would finger (l>h) 1 2 3 4 (x) 4
     
  4. buddastrat

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    I'd use my thumb on that bass note. But man, I can see that'd be one dissonant chord.
     
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    The only one I've ever really used, and quite by accident is playing a fulle barre chord with the barre one fret lower on the high E than on the low E - can play a Major7th chord that way.

    I like "cross fret barre" someone else mentioned. Wonder if there's a Spanish word (since that's where the other terms originate) for "angle" that would work.

    Steve
     
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    Actually, you can't really do the 4/3 move. It should be 3rd on the G and 4th on the E. That's even crazier than the angled barre!

    Given that, I think there's far more likely some typos there.

    Steve
     
  8. DannyS

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    I don't find it hard to do the 4/3 move, it's actually the most comfortable way to grip this for me..
     
  9. Tone_Terrific

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    What is that?:huh
    Can it be posted as tab?:huh
    Actual notes and fingering, too, please.:huh
     
  10. DannyS

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    |--------5---------------| A
    |--------6---------------| F
    |--------7---------------| D
    |--------8---------------| Bb
    |------------------------| 
    |--------8---------------| C
    
    with tab it looks like this, but this doesn't really capture how to play the chord. The main discussion is the fingering, if you try to do this without the oblique bar you will soon find out that you need 5 fingers to grip this. I'm not that great with theory, so maybe somebody can chime in with what type of chord it is.
     
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    dude, your tab is upside down (of the usual convention)...clears up several things...
     
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    ...so, it's Bbmaj7/C or Bbmaj9, fourth inversion...
     
  13. Tone_Terrific

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    This I get.^

    Oblique I don't. I am obtuse.
    Does this mean the same finger on 2 different frets but on adjacent strings? Really?
    There's a whole level of acrobatic agility above the norm.:omg
     
  14. DannyS

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    Oh man, I'm no good at remembering which side is which. For some reason the backwards diagram seems more proper to me, but I notice it now. I'm not a left handed guitarist or anything either. Well, it's fixed in the original post, my mistake.
     
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    Thanks.
    NOW, I see.
    I have to lay my finger way down and fret with my knuckle.
    How convenient.:jo
     
  16. gtrbarbarian

    gtrbarbarian Silver Supporting Member

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    You can play it easier by finger picking if playing all notes at once (Ted didn't normally play with a pick) and barring the 8th fret with the pinky...but the chord chart isn't exactly the clearest in this thread. If not sounded all at once you can always roll your fingers like you do when sweep picking...

    I still can't tell if this is what you meant, but the chord I'm seeing is:
    Amin b5
    e|--------------8--| b3
    B|-----------x-----|
    G|--------8--------| b5
    D|-----7-----------| R
    A|---6-------------| b5
    E|-5---------------| R
     
  17. DannyS

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    Fixed the tab.. sorry it was upside down too.
     
  18. Jim Soloway

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    I use a slanted barre quite often, either from the fifth or sixth string to the first string with the first string position being a fret below the fifth or sixth string position. In practice, it's not really a barre at all though. I'm fingering the fifth or sixth string with the tip of the finger and the first string with the base of the finger. It's easiest to play is there's a bit of arch in the index finger with the other strings covered by other fingers or omitted.
     
  19. gtrbarbarian

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    I actually just LOL'd

     

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