OD-100 with High Gain Mod...why is it worth $3000?

[gearo999]

I have a chance to get one of these amps. It sounds really good but is it worth $3000?
It seems to be quality amp but....

Help me out....

 

[aleclee]

Sounds like you don't think it's worth three grand. If that's the case, don't get it 'cause it doesn't matter what other folks think it's worth until you want to sell it.

 

[gorgorsan]

Are you referring to SE mod?

 

[glynn]

If there is any question, then no.

I played on the modded purple one that was at tone merchants. For me, it was worth the 3k asking price. I just don't have 3k.

It's one hell of an amp.

 

[gearo999]

Originally posted by gorgorsan
Are you referring to SE mod?

Yes. I think thats it.

 

[gearo999]

Originally posted by aleclee
Sounds like you don't think it's worth three grand. If that's the case, don't get it 'cause it doesn't matter what other folks think it's worth until you want to sell it.

Well, I just don't know a whole lot about the amp or the company. It sounds damn good, but so do a lot of amps.

Its not a matter of the money, it's about value and quality. I like the tone and the options on the amp. It has enough gain for me and the cleans are nice, BUT is it worth $3000?

I have an Bogner XTC its worth $2500 to me. I think its a quality amp, sounds great and has nice cleans. The OD-100 is different but in a good way.

I want to know if $3000 for an OD-100 is a good deal....

 

[gorgorsan]

Well, its one of the most regarded amps out there so if you like the tone go for it.

 

[dookie]

I really like the OD100 but if there was any doubt in my mind that it is worth $3K, I wouldn't buy it...

There are many amps out there less than $3K for you to check out... See if any of those other amps work out for you before you decide on the OD100...

Judging from your signature, you already have some nice ones in your arsenal...

 

[mattmccloskey]

The problem with the OD100 pricing is that the dealers are taking advantage of the low availability, and charging list price. Suhr guitars are a relative bargain because many dealers will give you a nice discount from list, many up to 30 percent off list. If the 0d100 was discounted from list it would be much more reasonably priced.
As much as I love suhr guitars and assume the amp is great, 3k seems too steep when so many fantastic sounding amps, cabs, pedals,etc can be purchased for so much less.

 

[SQUAREHEAD]

Originally posted by gearo999
Well, I just don't know a whole lot about the amp or the company. It sounds damn good, but so do a lot of amps.

Its not a matter of the money, it's about value and quality. I like the tone and the options on the amp. It has enough gain for me and the cleans are nice, BUT is it worth $3000?

I have an Bogner XTC its worth $2500 to me. I think its a quality amp, sounds great and has nice cleans. The OD-100 is different but in a good way.

I want to know if $3000 for an OD-100 is a good deal....

Here's one you can buy brand new in the box. Buy it.
He'll sell it for $2500.00

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=10171&item=7328851509&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

 

[highgeer]

1) $3,000 for an OD-100 w/SH,SE mods is definitely a good deal; they list for over $3,200. The mark-up is not the same as the guitars, therefore the dealers probably make less on the amps than they do on the guitars. All of Suhrs dealers are chomping at the bit to get the these, and they usually sell very quickly.

2) The used market for none SE mod OD-100s is around $2,500, and I have not seen a used SE yet. I would assume that the used price for an SE would be within 10% of the purchase price. I do not think you can say that about very many amps on the market.

3) From my past experience with the original OD-100, I thought the new one would be good, but just not my cup of tea. On the recomendation of a few friends I ordered a SH/SE. For my needs, this is probably the best amp I have played. Channel 1 is everything that I have always wanted a Twin to be(fatter,warmer, ods well), and channel 2 is the perfect cross between a moded Marshall and a Dumble(Yes, I said Dumble). Contrary to most of the reviews, I am getting the most incredible low volume tones. I set Ch1 for a slight OD and back off of my volume knob for a pristine clean and Ch2 for my lead sound and then back off of the volume knob for my crunch.

Mike

 

[SteveVHT]

Well, since I have one, but didn't pay $3000 brand new, I'll try to comment.
First off, you can find one for $2500 or so...I did, brand new.
I also have mine at Johns right now getting the 3+SE mod to the lead channel.
I've owned and still own many high end amps. It really comes down to personal taste.
There are no amps I've ever played that had better cleans than the OD100.
The gain channel can go from light blues to over the top metal gain. Alot of people adjust the amp with their eyes and not their ears. The EQ sections of each channel can dramatically change the overall sound of the amp. It is a truly 3D sounding amp.
It's a players amp and not a gimmick.
If you want the best Fender Twin cleans, it has it only better.
If you want Dumble/ SRV tones, just boost the clean channel.
If you want EVH's brown sound, just click the gain channel on. If you want Metal, just boost the gain channel.
I will be able to tell you alot more next week when I get mine back from John with the SE mod.
But worth can only be determined by you.
I know alot will call me crazy, and they have.... But I played 2 different Divided by 13 amps, and wouldn't pay $500 for either... So it's all really subjective, and personal taste.
Steve

 

[mattmccloskey]

well, it is nice to know that they are starting to be discounted a bit. 2500 is a little more reasonable. I know at first it seemed everyone was charging 3K. I still would not want to pay that much for an amp without reverb and speakers. Just my preference! I would love to see a suhr amp in 1x12 combo form with reverb at a lower wattage for a few bucks less.

 

[Steve Snider]

Originally posted by highgeer
1) $3,000 for an OD-100 w/SH,SE mods is definitely a good deal; they list for over $3,200. The mark-up is not the same as the guitars, therefore the dealers probably make less on the amps than they do on the guitars. All of Suhrs dealers are chomping at the bit to get the these, and they usually sell very quickly.

2) The used market for none SE mod OD-100s is around $2,500, and I have not seen a used SE yet. I would assume that the used price for an SE would be within 10% of the purchase price. I do not think you can say that about very many amps on the market.

3) From my past experience with the original OD-100, I thought the new one would be good, but just not my cup of tea. On the recomendation of a few friends I ordered a SH/SE. For my needs, this is probably the best amp I have played. Channel 1 is everything that I have always wanted a Twin to be(fatter,warmer, ods well), and channel 2 is the perfect cross between a moded Marshall and a Dumble(Yes, I said Dumble). Contrary to most of the reviews, I am getting the most incredible low volume tones. I set Ch1 for a slight OD and back off of my volume knob for a pristine clean and Ch2 for my lead sound and then back off of the volume knob for my crunch.



Mike

Mike,

You make great points here.

The SE modded OD100 is the best amp I own. That said, my bandmate has been searching for an amp that would eclipse or even equal the tones that he got when he recorded his first cd and borrowed the holy grail Dumble (EL34) from Bob Bradshaw in the late 80s. He had Bobby Kimball and Davy Pattison and a bunch of stellar players as well.The reason I mention that is he can afford greatr studio musicians and buy any amp. He has been seeking an amp to equal dumble amp for 15 years. He has bought every Dumble clone, Marshall, Marshall inspired amp etc.Diezel,bogner,soldano. He finally found the amp that eclipsed that Holy grail Dumble- The SE modded OD100 SH. I feel the same.

Only My Egnater Modular 100 watt amp gives me as much pleasure but nothing sounds as good as my JST OD100 SH/SE for what it does.

 

[highgeer]

Steve,

I'm glad that someone else has noticed the Dumble qualities.

Thanks again for the recommendation,
Mike

 

[shoe]

I paid over a grand more for my Diezel Herbert than my OD100....both were new. Based on everything else in the category, I felt the OD100 was a STEAL by comparison. It's the first amp I've ever had that makes me want for nothing else.....seriously.

As for the SE mod......I started playing in the late 80's so that style of music is infused in my DNA. If you can imagine the most ideal tones from that era married with excellent and punchy BF clean, then you've got the OD100 SE.

Just my $.02

 

[Steve Snider]

Originally posted by shoe
I paid over a grand more for my Diezel Herbert than my OD100....both were new. Based on everything else in the category, I felt the OD100 was a STEAL by comparison. It's the first amp I've ever had that makes me want for nothing else.....seriously.

As for the SE mod......I started playing in the late 80's so that style of music is infused in my DNA. If you can imagine the most ideal tones from that era married with excellent and punchy BF clean, then you've got the OD100 SE.

Just my $.02

FOR ME:
Approaching the 1 year mark with mine. Serial number three of the JST series. Started out as the SH/Stock and ended up as the SH/SE but I gotta say after owning so many expensive multi channel amps this thing kicks ass on it's rivals.

It is truly a great amp and in the right context, unbeatable. I could not agree more Pete.

 

[bluessyndicate]

This Friday I had the pleasure of meeting John Suhr in his Lake Elsinore CA headquarters. I was fortunate enough to spend 90 minutes with John, hear of his innovative ideas, see his operations and A/B two OD-100's...a SH/SE and a SH/Stock.

In my opinion the recent buzz about the OD-100 is all true. The amp sounds huge...the cleans are fantastic (second only to the cleans of my Two Rock Custom Reverb Signature...which is saying alot), and the gain channel is absolutely incredible..the SE mod is the bomb.

In the end I concluded that I would want the SE mod due to it's smoother/creamier sound over the stock gain which has less gain but sounds more aggressive and less smooth (likewise a good sound for some). I concluded that I don't need the extra brightness associated with the SH mod which in part compliments Henderson's widespread use of pedals...not using many pedals I don't need that extra brightness.

From John's place I rushed over to Wildwest guitars to A/B Bogner 101B's and Classics while the sound of the OD-100 was fresh in my mind. There is no doubt that the Bogner has some great sounds...but the clean channel continues to dissappoint (even the classic). I conclude for the discerning player that doesn't want to compromise, you'll get a better clean and a better gain channel from the OD-100. For players placing more emphasis on wanting a pallette of sounds over having the best sounds, the Bogner may be what you need.

The OD-100 is a winner and would be the perfect compliment to my Two Rock CR Sig....for my purposes.

John is a gentlemen with some great innovative ideas. Someone above said this amp had only been around for awhile, which is actually not true...it's been around for more than a decade, but was not actively pushed by Bradshaw due to his business model which gave him better margins for custom racks. Thanks to John for bringing it back... It's clear he has more innovative products to come.

 

[Fab]

Two weeks ago I have receveid my OD100SH/SE from Tenomerchants (thanks Ed). Now it's the only amp I can play. Channel 1 give you some of the best clean and crunch, and channel 2 give a truly incredible distortion. The boost on the channel 2 is the way to achieve a different distortion, really useable.

Last point, I live in an appartement, And I can use this amp without any problem. 100 watts, but a true master volume.

Best buy from my point of vue.

Merci Monsieur Suhr de nous avoir fait un ampli aussi merveilleux.

 

[bluesmostly]

Originally posted by Fab

Merci Monsieur Suhr de nous avoir fait un ampli aussi merveilleux. [/B]

I love this amp. Both channels are awesome with no compromise for me. Its a keeper. And it even sounds good in French

Bienvenu au GP Fab!