Ok, i'm this close to shoot myself.... Help!

Discussion in 'Luthier's Guitar & Bass Technical Discussion' started by WildTop, Mar 27, 2005.


  1. Mar 27, 2005 #1
    WildTop

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    hey everyone...
    i think my problem is too wierd to describe but i'll give it a shot...
    a few months ago i'v noticed that my strings are becoming too tight, and after some time and some string changing they became too loose, and then tight! and then loose again!! etc. , even now when i finally bought a new guitar the problem starts again... it's like voodoo ****! i'v tried everything!
    first with my strat, i thought it's the springs, but now i have this problem also with the new guitar witch has tunomatic bridge with stopbar.... i know it sounds wierd and yes, i once thought it's only in my head but clearly it's NOT! i don't know what to do and i'm realy loosing it here...

    i'll try to explaine the problem again:
    it seems like the tention of the strings is changing drastically without me touching anything... some times the strings are too loose and some times too tight.. (also some times they get back to be just fine but after a while the tention changes again..)

    i'm a working musician and this thing affects my playing and sound...
    PLEASE, i know it sounds funny but it's true... i just don't know what to do...

    Thanks...
     
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  2. Mar 27, 2005 #2
    908SSP

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    Do mean they are going out of tune sometime sharp sometimes flat? That happens everytime the temperature changes it is nothing to worry about you retune and go. Even in the house where you would think the temperature is constent it is enough to change pitch on my Peterson tuner.
     
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  3. Mar 27, 2005 #3
    WildTop

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    no.. it's not about tuning.... it's the strings tention that changes...
     
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  4. Mar 28, 2005 #4
    WildTop

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    Again, I know it sounds crazy but i'm totally sure of it... the strings are feeling very loose and i haven't touched anything...
    I knew that no one will understand because IT REALLY IS wierd...

    Jim, can you please explain more about humidity/temp. and how can they effect the feel....?

    thanks....
     
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  5. Mar 28, 2005 #5
    WildTop

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    First of all - thanks...
    Second - I'm not kidding, i'm very sensitive to changes and i know what i feel man... the strings are too loose...
    i know it doesn't make sence... i truly do... but those are the facts my friend...

    i guess i'll just have to deal with it..:(
     
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  6. Mar 29, 2005 #6
    Randy

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    If the strings are not going out of tune they are not changing tension - tension defines pitch so that's physically impossible.

    I would guess it's a change of your own musculature / sensitivity / joint stiffness or something along those lines.

    If you really want to explore it, try checking your body temperature over several days and recording it along with your perception of tension. I bet you find a pattern.
     
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  7. Mar 30, 2005 #7
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    it should be something with the temp-humidity variations.

    but another thing came up to me. Do you wind the strings too much on the keyposts? If you overwind the strings, maybe the overlapping windings interact with the ones below them.

    But this would normally imply pitch changes...

    i don't know, just wild-guessing...
     
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  8. Mar 31, 2005 #8
    WildTop

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    I'v noticed somthing today....
    First i think the proper way to describe the problem is to say that not the tention of the strings is changing.... it's the stiffness...

    i'v noticed that if i'm tightning the tuners to the headstock the strings become stiffer and vice versa.... that's also a bit wierd to me...
     
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