On the fence with an Epiphone Casino

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  1. Bozrahindrid

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    I have a Fender Limited Edition '72 Telecaster Custom and a Squier VM Jaguar; both that I plan to sell. I have been playing both for the last two to three years and I am not satisfied with the sound quality. I remember a fellow musician said once that Jaguar's "are kinda thin sounding" and after practicing in a music room the other day, (the acoustics were so amazing in there of course) and the room brought out the true nature of both..and I was not impressed. Both sort of felt out of place with my friend's Epiphone SG and it's sound. They just couldn't match up! I have a decent amp; a Fender Frontman 212r 100 watt. My friend played his Sg on my amp and it was amazing!

    So, I had a revelation; after my experience with playing in that music room, I believe that the humbuckers/P90s are the way to go! I am looking at an Epiphone Casino; I have considered this guitar since I first began playing guitar( 7-8 years ago) but I was put off by the bulky look, the feedback and I didn't think it would just not plain work out..but after religiously listening to the Beatles "White Album", The Velvet Underground, and The Jam, I have come to realize that my biggest influences play this guitar (John Lennon plays one on the White Album quite a bit I hear and I just love the tones they get on that album!).
    So, fellow musicians, should I stick with the guitars I have or go wit the Epiphone Casino? I just want to be sure before I make a move. Btw, my band plays Blues/Punk.
     
  2. mughead

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    get one!!
     
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    I got an image of the OP sitting on the fence serenading the neighborhood with his Epi.

    My least fave of the Epi hollow/semi hollows, but I don't like the cheap trapeze bridge. YMMV.
     
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    Yeah try it out. If you like p90's and that sound try an epiphone es339 p90 pro too. More of a mix of semihollow and solidbody sound. Won't feed back as quick. I really like the way chords sound on the casino, but when you dig in for lead or get more dirt, the es339 sounds better to my ears.
     
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    I'd sell the Frontman and get some money together for a better and preferably tube-based amp. An uninvited comment but worth considering nevertheless.
     
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    I agree. Settle on a good amp and you will be able to find the guitar you are looking for. You might even find it in your present stable.
     
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    I'd sell the Frontman and get some money together for a better and preferably tube-based amp. An uninvited comment but worth considering nevertheless.

    I agree. Settle on a good amp and you will be able to find the guitar you are looking for. You might even find it in your present stable.

    +1
     
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    A amp upgrade with the Epi Casino will get you there.
     
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    All this is aassuming you have had your guitars setup and pickup height adjusted? Ever look at better than stock pickups? Maybe your offset could use a tonepros bridge? And the Casino does and can feedback. CAN you handle that and the 60 cycle p-90 hum?
     
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    Casinos are great guitars with lots of versatility. They are light, have nice necks, and P90's are fabulous pickups.

    The one concern is feedback. It can be controlled, but the issue is real and will be something you always have to be careful about. If you can live with that, don't look back. If not, consider a semi hollow instead - far less feedback trouble.
     
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    Sounds like if that's the tone you're after, then a tele and Jaguar might not get you there. I've had mainly solidbodies but lately move into Casady bass, Gretsch, and a recent Casino- and am liking the difference in sound.

    Agree on the amp too- a decent tube amp will really help.
     
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    If I were you, I'd go for a decent tube amp like the Hot Rod Deluxe and the Gary Clark Jr Signature Casino. Looks great and it will be limited for this year only and also comes with a hardshell case. Great value for 1000 USD + 2-400 USD for the amp (used condition).
     
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    agreed with the other. amp upgrade is first priority.

    casinos have difficult upper fret access. how much lead do you play? if a lot, you might want to look at an epiphone dot or 335 pro instead.
     
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    While the hollow body of the Casino can make it vulnerable to feedback, that weakness is also part of its strength. With something like a Twin turned up, the guitar just comes alive in your hands.
     
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    I have an Epi 335 Pro, and it is a killer guitar for a very little price. But, if you are looking for that P90 sound (which I really love), another interesting choice might be the Epi ES 339 P90 Pro. It is a smaller body, semi hollow guitar equipped with P90's. I haven't played one, but it is probably really nice. Its especially sweet in Pelham Blue.
     
  16. Bozrahindrid

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    Okay..I appreciate the replies and all..but I wasn't asking about an amp choice. lol..I'm asking about the Casino here! And I actually like the Frontman..it's simple and what I am looking for. Tubes are too expensive and a pain in the ass to take care of and replace in my opinion..but thanks..
     
  17. Bozrahindrid

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    Wtf is a TL: DR?? lol...
     
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    Yeah, I think I could live the feedback..sometimes I like it as a matter of fact! The VU's White Light/White Heat is a great example and use of feedback and I love the song "I Heard Her Call My Name" for that reason. I'm pretty certain that Lou uses the Casino or some similar guitar on that song.

    Yeah..a Tube amp is simply out of my price range and reach at this put..I really don't understand all the Fender Frontman hate on here. lol This amp is a breath of fresh air after using my VOX VT30. It was really complicated. I think getting a tube amp is a bad idea for me. Plus, they are too expensive. I agree that the sound on them is 10x better than a solid stae..but it's not realisitic right now. But this is not why I put the thread up. I am asking about the Epiphone Casino and if it is worth buying...Not trying to be a dick here but that's what I wanted to know. lol

    I play more rhythm than lead, but I do on occasion. I researched more things about the Casino today and when you switch it to the neck pick up, it has enough bite to be a lead guitar. I definitely agree that chords sound amazing on the Casino..so so far it sounds pretty promising.
     
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    This is the Gear Page. Many of the folks here love their high end gear. Expensive custom shop guitars, boutique tube amps, vintage stuff, you name it. So don't be surprised by the Frontman hate here. it doesn't fit the mold.

    Frankly I've never played a SS amp that I liked, and the one time I used a Frontman, I was especially disappointed. Maybe that makes me one of the haters :)

    But, this thread is about guitars. Casinos are cool. Other options for modestly priced P90 hollow/semi-hollow guitars include the Wildkat and the ES 339 P90 Pro. I think PRS might have an SE semi hollow with P90's too.

    We'll deal with amps when you ask us to do so :)
     
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    Oh yeah, you can definitely get a great lead tone on a casino, the only issues are feedback (which is manageable) and upper fret access.
     

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