One Amp: Fendery Cleans with Marshally Crunch

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  1. rdamato

    rdamato Supporting Member

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    As the title suggests, after buying and selling amps for several years, I cannot get the clean Fender sound out of my head. I do, however, enjoy the over driven tones of a JTM 45/Plexi 50. High gain is not my thing. I play in a classic rock band on weekends with a group of other 50+ folks and want something as described but NOT TOO HEAVY!!!!!!! Let me know of your thoughts.

    Thanks,
    Ron

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  2. earthlydescent

    earthlydescent Senior Member

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    Rivera Fandango, 1x12... Very nice cleans with a wide variety of Marshallesque dirty tones from light crunch to hard rock.
     
  3. SmilingDave

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    Hi Ron,

    You might like the Soldano Lucky 13. A few years ago I used it for classic rock and it really fit the bill. I think it really nails the Fender clean/Marshall crunch thing. One thing I really liked about it is that it has separate tone stacks and separate reverbs for each channel. I might be putting mine on the block before too long (I have the 100 2x12 watt combo, great sounding for sure, but a bit much for playing around the house), drop me a message if you end up thinking this is the path you want to take.

    http://www.soldano.com/newsiteapril/html/lucky.html

    -David
     
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    The most recent version of the Heritage Patriot will do that. You gotta get the version designed with the AX7 phase inverter. The earlier ones with the at7 don't do it and you can't just swap the tubes. You need the other changes...
     
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    Suhr Badger 18 or 30
     
  6. BadAssBill

    BadAssBill southofnash.com Silver Supporting Member

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    Budda is fairly close to this. My alternative is any Fender amp with a Barber DD SS. Really good Marshall like sound, even at lower volumes.
     
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  8. 8nthatK

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    I'll second the clean Fender amp with a pedal.
    Though I recently heard a Super-Sonic that had been tweaked by the owner that sounded really good at both sounds, less high mids then the typical Marshall, but it did sound nice.
    Rivera has been going for that very thing for some time, I've never bonded with their stuff, but lots of folks seem to really love 'em.
     
  9. mcuguitar

    mcuguitar Gold Supporting Member

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    I'll put my 2 cents in here. I own an Ulbrick Stadium 80. It really gets close to the Fender cleans, yet has a nice Marshally overdrive. It's not an inexpensive amp...but if you want both huge tones...this one gets it. Check out the youtube clips on the Ulbricks and hear what I mean.
     
  10. surfshack

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    a blackface pro reverb.....gotta mess with tubes and the bias pot though!
     
  11. FrankieSixxxgun

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    I play through a two-channel JCM 800. I get some old school Marshall crunch in the gain channel and some nice cleans through the clean channel. The cleans are more midsy than a Fender since it's a Marshall (duh!) but it's way usable. Nice reverb tank onboard too.
     
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    wonder if one of David Allen's amps would do it for ya?
     
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    Come to think of it...isn't Suhr's OD100 suppose to excell at that? I've never played thru one, but heard they really do nice Fender cleans with a great OD.
     
  15. Spudman

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    The Crate Vintage Club VC50212 will do the job. Bassman on the clean channel and Marshall on the dirty. 2 12's 50 watts and a nice tight bottom. Make sure to find one of the blond ones from the 90s.
     
  16. Blues Jr

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    I like the Traynor YCS50.
     
  17. Texsunburst59

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    My '66 Allen/master volume modded Bassman will do what your asking for. It's got the AA-864 circuitry on the Normal channel and the Tweed/Plexi circuitry on the Bass channel. The amp does sweet sparkling cleans with 6L6's and does very respectable Marshall crunch on the Bass side. I can switch out the 6L6's to EL-34's and rebias the amp, and get KILLER Marshall crunch on the Tweed/Plexi side.

    Marshall Lead tone on Tweed/Plexi channel:

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    clean tone using the Plexi channel:

    http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=633883&songID=5722926

    Clean tone Norma Channel AA-864:

    http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=633883&songID=5421166

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  18. rdamato

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    Great stuff. Keep it coming. Remember, weight is a big issue for me!!

    Thanks,
    Ron
     
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    I tried a Splawn Quick Rod, and the clean channel was beautiful! Of course,
    it did the Marshall-like crunch very, very well.
     
  20. Griz

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    Get a RI '59 Bassman and do the following:

    1. 12AY7 in V1

    2. 5AR4/GZ34 tube rectifier

    3. Have it modded to take EL34 tubes (easy mod, non-destructive)

    I did this with a '91 RI tweed Bassman years ago. At lower volumes, it's all Fender sweetness with a bit of extra EL34 sparkle and compression. Turn it up, and it morphs by degrees towards Marshall - the more you work the EL34 power stage, basically.

    Every gig I played with that amp there would be people asking me about how I was getting that sound.

    :RoCkIn
     

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