Hi all. First of all i would like to thank LeonC and Rollie for the very usefull information they provided me with respect to the Orange rockers. Now, after having established that the Rocker/verb series is the ideal solution for home low volume use up to Gig volumes i am wondering the following. The orange rocker 30 has the following. 1. Costs 970$ 2. No Fx loop no reverb 3. 3x ECC83 4. No eq for clean channel 5. Doesnt need rebiasing 2xel34 (class A???? more heat???) The Rockerverb 50 has the following. 1. Costs 1570$ 2. Has tube driven fx loop and reverb 3. 4xECC83 (more gain stages) 4. EQ for clean and EQ for drive channels. 5. Needs rebiasing and can take either 4x6v6 or 2xel34 Class AB less heat? I believe that both behave the same tonally and volume levels are more or less similar. So in one hand i got the R30 that has the advantage of NO-BIAS and the smaller price, and the RV50 that has the advantage of FX loop and Reverb and extra EQ. Finally i wonder how they behave with my Fulltone Soulbender and HBE BigD, and how they will behave with delays etc in front of the amp. I am wondering what one would do in my place. Obviously i ll try to play both before deciding, but since i ll have to search the country (UK) to find both of them side by side in the same shop, i would greatly appreciate your input. Yannis Tones i am after: Led Zeppelin, GnR, Sabbath, Cream, Doors, ZZtop, ACDC, Hendrix etc... PS. I ve already read ALL threads concerning the Oranges here, and i ve spent significant reading time in the orange forum, and also talked to A.Emsley himself.