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Ordering the new Fender Excelsior next week!

Stratoben127

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I've wanted a portable, low watt tube amp that I can crank up for a while now. I really hate my Hot Rod and how big it is. It's my only amp and I want a nice small one for recording and small gigs. Well all of the ones I looked at were either more than I wanted in a small amp or too expensive for something thath is so small (I'm pretty low on money after just buying a Les Paul and pickups). Well along comes the Excelsior. I'm a huge tweed deluxe fan so this seems like a cool Valco/deluxe kind of thing and the 15 inch speaker really intrigues me. Well anyway... I'm pretty excited.
 

Ziad

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Please let us know how it goes. I'm super curious about the 15" too!
Anyone know if it's class A?
 

Stratoben127

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Please let us know how it goes. I'm super curious about the 15" too!
Anyone know if it's class A?
I will let you know for sure. I'll probably post clips with my Strat and LP. If you don't mind me asking... What exactly does class A and A/B mean? Honestly it doesn't make a difference to me, the excelsior sounds amazing but I've always wondered what that means.
 

thosk

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With 2 6v6s, most likely a/b. Supposedly, it isn't a based on anything in particular, but is its own thing. Anybody seen a schematic for these things yet?
 

cratz2

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I'm going to guess it's most similar to a PCB version of the Bright channel of a Brown Deluxe vibe, minus the tone pot and simplified Tremolo controls.

I'll wait until I can buy one locally, but unless it sounds absolutely terrible in the store, I'm sure I'll buy one. Not sure what I think about the 15" speakers thing but if nothing else, I'd be easy enough to make an adapter ring to allow a 12" to be mounted.
 

cratz2

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I will let you know for sure. I'll probably post clips with my Strat and LP. If you don't mind me asking... What exactly does class A and A/B mean? Honestly it doesn't make a difference to me, the excelsior sounds amazing but I've always wondered what that means.
How long of an answer do you want? :p

Bottom line is one isn't 'better' than the other and most manufacturers lie about it anyway.

http://mesaboogie.com/US/Smith/ClassA-WebVersion.htm
 

Ziad

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I was just curious about class, as a lot of amps I like tend to turn out to be class A. In the end, whatever sounds good, you know.
Class D tends to sound horrible on guitar (bass likes it), as I find that it's "too" transparent (feels like plugging directly to the PA without an amp--but that might have its application sometimes, I guess)
But I guess "manufacturers lie" anyway.
 

cratz2

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Question... how many $1,000+ Class D guitar amps have you played? Do any even exist?

My guess is if some jazz amp company built an amp with a Class D power section and a carefully designed preamp to match it, it would be a great amp. I think the big thing about Class D and guitar amps is that it's radical overkill. Class D is most effective at trying to get scads of power in a small, very lightweight package with minimal heat. Those qualities are perfect for a bass amp, but wasted in most guitar capacities.

Having said that, I totally understand what you are saying.
 

dzeitlin

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Question... how many $1,000+ Class D guitar amps have you played? Do any even exist?

My guess is if some jazz amp company built an amp with a Class D power section and a carefully designed preamp to match it, it would be a great amp. I think the big thing about Class D and guitar amps is that it's radical overkill. Class D is most effective at trying to get scads of power in a small, very lightweight package with minimal heat. Those qualities are perfect for a bass amp, but wasted in most guitar capacities.

Having said that, I totally understand what you are saying.
badcat just came out with the bobcat. it is class d, and sounds amazing.
 

Stratoben127

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I just preordered it on musicians friend. It doesn't ship until April 2nd! I was hoping mid February at the latest. Major disappointment.
 

SPROING!

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Crate Power Block was class D wasn't it? The EHX 44 Magnum is. It sounds pretty good.
From the video online about the Excelsior, I got a distinct Valco/Supro vibe from it and the accordian input sounded decidedly Marshallesque to me.
Will be interested to try one out.
 

Stratoben127

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No. I actually got a Fender Vibro-Champ XD instead. I got it new for $130 and it's great. Never played an Excelsior.
 

Stratoben127

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I actually thought I mentioned that or deleted it. I guess I didn't realize because it's such an old thread. Sorry.
 




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