P&W Rigs/Pedalboards

Discussion in 'Effects, Pedals, Strings & Things' started by Abandoned, Feb 12, 2015.

  1. btjguitarman

    btjguitarman Supporting Member

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    Why not just use a track?










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  3. mattpker

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    Yes, always on. And no, my handle is a gaming thing lol.
     
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  4. kdm1218

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    I dunno, from what you have previously described from this drummer, it may be a lot more like “the hills are alive with the sound of music.”

    (No matter how much I’ve tried, I can’t get GIFs/memes to load here from google images... would have been a cooler reference with Julie Andrews face)
     
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  5. He_Ma

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    This next post is not meant to hurt anyones feelings or cause many pages of debate.

    I don't understand Xotic pedals. I've tried many RC, AC, BB, EP, SP and never digged what I heard when compared other drive/comp pedals. RC Booster is the only one I've owned and the rest I've tried at the store and I usually walked away with something else. It's not that they sound bad, but something in each of those pedals made me not to buy them. Drive pedals were also bit noisier than my mad professor drives that I bought at the time and Keeley comp worked better for me and was also less noisy.

    People here and everywhere get great tones with those pedals though..

    Does Someone else share my opinion or have similiar feelings about some other popular manufacturer pedals?
     
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  6. btjguitarman

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    I’m with you. Didn’t like how the EP booster affected my tone like at all.. it felt really plasticky almost. BB I just think I don’t like Bluesbreakers at all. SP comp was too squashy for me no matter what I did (but I didn’t get inside it to mess with the dip switch because guitar center). AC and RC boosters were just kind of meh to me, not bad but not great.
     
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  7. boyce89976

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    I never had much luck with them either. Their comp always seemed to add some low end, no matter where the dip switches were set. I had a BB+ (actually still do... need to sell it) that I liked, but didn't love. It was a little noisier than my Wampler Dual-whatever, so I used the Wampler. I also have an RC boost, which can be great with a Vox flavored amp, but I don't ever use it. It's one I'll hang onto though.
     
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    Even those in favor of tracks seemed not happy with drum tracks with no drummer on stage :D
     
  9. dickjonesify

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    Only ever liked the RC but not enough to own one. A lot of people swear by the EP but I much preferred my JHS Prestige.

    Almost literally hated the BB and AC hahaha. For my rig anyway. YMMV
     
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  10. MoonshineMan

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    Wifi was out for a few days, but here goes.....

    Music stands=lol..... Not even a blip on my radar, as an “issue”. I use them for my slide and coffee pot & cup. I’m not reaching back and pouring a fresh one from a pot sitting on my amp. Ain’t nobody got time for that. You guys already know how our church rolls, so....you know....;)

    Deadbeat drummers.... DO NOT BRING A SH!TTY DRUMMER ON THE STAGE. If you’re left no choice but to invite him, kill him when he gets to the parking lot, hide the body and play dumb. Make up a story and stick to it like glue. There are zero things in the known parts of the galaxy that eff up a set like bad drums. Ask me how I know. Somewhat related.... destroy all djembes.

    Stereo mix.... N/A :)

    Multiple singers: We have at most 4 active vocal mics: 1 for the WL, 2 for proper bgv girls, and another one for me, as i can phase in and out of the harmony mood. I avoid singing when i can, but I can’t always stop it. Usually, there’s 3, though, with just one girl singing harmonies. If we had 3+ girls singing harmonies, they’d better know what they’re doing, and I think everything would be better served to treat them as a choir, and give them one mic to sing around. FWIW, i think it’s visually beautiful, and it allows them to kinda manage their own levels, as we have wedges and they’d just have to share. But that only works with girls that have either sung together before or know how to do it, usually having some choir experience. You can make a MASSIVE and very organic sound with 3 singers into one mic.

    Xotic pedals... I’ve never had one, but am still considering the compressor for a separate lap steel/2nd guitar pedalboard that I can either use for steel or my wife can use when she busts out the Heritage. I’m not experienced enough with compressors or picky enough about toanz to really sweat minutia. If it’s a compressor that compresses, it’ll work for me. Every demo I listened to of the EP (which was the only one I was ever really considering) kinda sounded too warm, and I’m not into warm. I prefer a managed incisive tone that I can control with the pick or Tone control. But that’s what works for us and our sound. I don’t use any TS-type boost either. I just don’t like those crazy mids. The FD2 in CompCut gives me the boost I like. There’s a little mid bump, but the sizzle is what I like about it. I had Scott at BMF make me a miniature clone, and he dialed out a tiny bit of mids to open it up a little more.

    Anyway, we’re in Yokohama, it’s 6am, and I’m ready for another pot of coffee. I’m listening to LotR on audiobook. Maybe I’ll smoke a pipe, too.... :D
     
  11. mattpker

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    Maybe it's cause your trying them at GC and not with your home pedalboard, amp, guitar? When I use the SP or EP I notice an immediate improvement in tone. With the SP I have it set to low compression. The EP I use at the lowest boost level (I think that's 3db) and use it to either fatten up notes when I am finger picking or use it after the drive for a lead solo. The EP adds so much "fatness/thickness" to the tone, I have no idea what @btjguitarman means when he says it sounds plasticky. I have all the internal dip switches set to default.

    Idk, maybe guitar / signal chain / amp makes a difference?
     
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    If subscription to this thread was mandatory for P&W team members we would be better for it.

    Great stuff as always.
     
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    Makes me feel better about being “mean” to my terrible drummers when i tell them they need to “know how the song goes” and “practice.”

    But if you feel the need to go further remember the magic words: “I want my lawyer!”

    Don’t say anything else.
     
  14. btjguitarman

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    I actually brought my amp and guitar to GC to try out the EP and SP because there really isn’t anything they carry that sounds all that close to my amp. The EP added like this really hi fi crispness to my sound that I didn’t find at all pleasant. It’s tough to explain but it wasn’t something I was happy with.
     
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    I owned an AC for about 5 hours once...
     
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  16. MoonshineMan

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    I know that I, for one, have learned that there are many ways to skin this cat.
     
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    I've managed to sell off everything I had listed. Next thing will be to determine whether I prefer my RV-500 or my Neunaber and sell off the one I like less. Sometime soon I'll buy my first Nemesis.
     
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    I just put a bunch of pedals in the emporium. All pedals I wish I could keep, but they deserve better homes (and more use) than I can give them right now. :(
     
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    I loved the BB preamp and have thought about picking up another a bunch of times. Timmy > BB Preamp > Fulltone Fat Boost was my drive section for years. Sounded heavenly with teles and strats.
     
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    You can come play at mine!
     

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