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Paint, Or Not To Paint

Discussion in 'Guitars in General' started by brentrocks, Aug 1, 2020.

  1. brentrocks

    brentrocks Guitar Hack/Player Gold Supporting Member

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    I purchased this Korina husk from a well known Luthier in East MI. Its currently raw wood, ready for finish.

    I have never "painted" a guitar before. I dont have a spray booth. I would have to do the painting in my garage. If i were to attempt to finish this husk, I would have to do it with Graceys Nitro in a can. I want to do it in a light amber tint.

    From the research I've done so far, I would have to buy....

    2 cans of sealer.....$40
    2 cans of amber.....$40
    3 cans of clear........$60
    1 can of black........$20
    Plus multiple pieces of sandpaper and masking tape.

    Another big problem is that i dont have a buffing wheel. I could probably buff it with a buffing wheel attached to my cordless drill...which i have done before to buff out haze and light scratches on other guitars in the past.

    OR

    I could just pay to have it finished!!!!


    WHAT WOULD YOU DO????

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  2. RRfireblade

    RRfireblade Member

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    Based on the situation you described, if I was you, I would pay to have it done if you want it done right.

    If you wanted to enjoy the experience of doing yourself, that's a different story. And the result is not the sum of the cost of the parts.
     
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  3. Julio Iguana

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    VERIFIED PROFESSIONAL. You will be living with the finished guitar. You’ll get people telling you otherwise but experience shows. You want a top notch finish I assume. My opinion, good luck whatever you choose.
     
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  4. treeofpain

    treeofpain Silver Supporting Member

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    If you haven't finished a guitar before, I am not sure I would start with a set neck design, especially something as cool as that. However, since you are doing an amber finish, if you mess up, you can pretty easily sand back down and redo (I have done this a few times). You may need to grain fill that korina.

    Most people underestimate the time it takes to finish a guitar. Unless you have a pro setup, it is very time intensive. I joke with my friends that every time I finish a guitar of mine, it is like getting paid a dollar an hour. But there is a sense of satisfaction with learning to do it and knowing it is done the way you like.
     
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  5. Jayyj

    Jayyj Supporting Member

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    It's definitely doable as a DIY project, but be aware you'll make mistakes and it probably won't be 100%. The Les Paul refinish I occasionally show off on here looks pretty good, but I stripped it back to the wood twice and burned through dozens of cans on lacquer before I was happy with it!

    On the plus side, there's no binding, on the minus side set necks are harder to handle.

    I'd watch a lot of videos first, and think through each step carefully so you're never in the position of trying to think something through whilst there's wet lacquer on the guitar. If yoy make a mistake stop and figure out what you have to do to fix it. Making mistakes and learning from them is part of the experience so don't take it too hard when it happens, just take a step back and figure out you're next move.

    Prep the guitar meticulously first, get the wood so you think it's perfect then spray a quick coat and look for all the little sanding scratches you missed. If the wood isn't prepped well, you won't stand a chance of getting a good finish so better take the time early on than decide after two weeks spraying you're going to have to start again.

    Don't worry about buffing - you can get a great looking finish with a sanding block, an old t-shirt and a polishing compound. You just wet sand up to 1200 grit then get stuck in with the polishing cloth and it'll come up to a nice gloss.

    Last rule, start a thread on it and post regular updates!
     
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  6. magicaxeman

    magicaxeman Member

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    I'd go Pro, in fact I did and as I didn't have a local guitar painter had one body sprayed up by a mate in fords body shop (2 pack metallic purple) and the other was sprayed up using tinted nitro at a local furniture restorers spray booth. In both cases the finished item was miles ahead of anything I could have produced.
     
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  7. Whiskeyrebel

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    Whatever you decide, just please don't bury that nice grain under a solid color.
     
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  9. zeffbeff

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    Since it's already a DIY project, why not finish it yourself?

    Go with an amber stain and clearcoat!
     
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  10. poppunk

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    This can be easily overlooked; if you value your time and won't enjoy this activity then that's a huge factor. This will be a massive time suck, and have frustrating moments. And then you might not be happy with the results and either be salty about it or just have to do it again. The prep work here is critical and way more work than most people think about; it's like doing massive amounts of drywall finish work (joint compound, sanding) before rolling on paint. If you've never done it, you have no idea the relatively large amount of time the prep work will take and every little thing that doesn't go right on it will show through the final product.

    The money you spend on the guitar is a huge factor too; I've done the refinish thing on a couple cheap bodies because it's not worth it to get someone to paint them. I have one body I had Marty Bell refinish because I wanted it done right, but it wasn't a cheap guitar. If you're putting a lot of money into this guitar, then having someone do it right (note: you won't do it right on your first one) is another serious factor.

    If you go the refinish route, absolutely do not cheap out. Get the reputable person that a lot of people say good things about but you can't really find anybody talking bad about. If the business is not well run you may lose your guitar to them for many months or never get it back.

    Since it's a set neck it's going to be a bit more expensive.
     
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  11. brentrocks

    brentrocks Guitar Hack/Player Gold Supporting Member

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    What’s your opinions on Tru oil?
     
  12. brentrocks

    brentrocks Guitar Hack/Player Gold Supporting Member

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    I wouldn’t dream of it.
     
  13. FractalGarden

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    Depends. Is this a guitar you're keeping, or a guitar that will end up in the Emporium?
     
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  14. Whiskeyrebel

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    I wonder if you could find someone to do a limed finish on it. Look how it makes the grain pop:
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  15. Toowoombaus

    Toowoombaus Silver Supporting Member

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    Not the greatest picture but when I got this from Bruce Bennett, it came this way, but very thin coats, within a year I had worn the finish off the back of the neck.
    Still my favorite guitar after five years. :)

     
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  16. guitarbilly74

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    It depends of what this is to you. Is this a guitar you need to be in rotation soon and looking perfect for upcoming gigs?
    Or is this more of a learning experience/fun project?

    Paying a professional to do will give you the fastest/best possible results but you won't learn anything from it.

    Doing it yourself is entirely possible if you're patient, good at following instructions and meticulous with your work. It probably still won't come out perfect but there's satisfaction in playing something you built/finished yourself.

    Also remember, it's just wood. You can stop and send it out at any point. There's not much you can do that is unfixable, as long as you're careful with it.
     
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  17. wetordry

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    If mine, I would do it myself, but i don't think the 2 brands of amber in a can that I've used on necks would look good on it. I can sort of see the tint in the amber.

    I'd probably stain and clear it.
     
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    Since it looks like a decent piece of timber, and is a distinctive shape, I would go clearcoat or oil.
     
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    If you want it to look 100% factory fresh, pay someone. If you don't care if it looks "good enough" from arm's length, do it yourself! It's a lot of fun IMO.
     
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  20. brentrocks

    brentrocks Guitar Hack/Player Gold Supporting Member

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    I have one quote to finish it in nitro for $500. That includes Vintage tinted color and black shot on the front of the peg head.....and buffed.
     

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