Has anybody seen PayLessGuitars.com yet? They are an eBay seller and have their own website that specifically says "We have our own guitar factory and we can make any kind of guitar with any kind of logo you want." and it goes on to say "Paylessguitars.com offers a lot of guitars in every imaginable brands... All the musical instruments are fabricated in our China factory..." So, at least they are telling you flat out that their guitars are fake version of the real thing. They are not only making Gibson knock-offs, but also PRS, Fender, Epiphone, Gretsch, Ibanez, etc. However, you have to go to their About Us webpage to find out they are really fakes. The uneducated customer could easily just click the Gibson link on the left of the Main Page and get taken to their list of Gibson models, where they ARE MISREPRESENTED as "Made in the USA" when you look at the pictures of the back of the headstock, etc. on the product photos page. Also, get a load of their Return Policy. This is what seems to have happened to a guy from CraigsList that contacted me recently and wanted to trade his "Les Paul Custom" for my Taylor T5. I had to break the news to him that, based on the picture of his guitar he sent me, he really had a Chinese knock-off and NOT a real Gibson. I haven't heard back from him yet (just sent the email today) so I don't know how he'll take the bad news. Here a pic of his guitar and you can easily tell it looks like a rosewood fretboard, etc. and the case isn't right for a real Gibson (missing latch, etc.). His guitar clearly looks like it came from PayLessGuitars' china factory IMO. http://tampa.craigslist.org/msg/737726278.html So be warned... FYI - Many of you may already know about this but I thought this would be good for the newbies and people who may be searching for info on the fakes to have this info together in one thread. (since the forum is for all levels of interest - from the new guy looking to buy his first Gibson to a sessoned player or reseller).