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  1. Papajuice

    Papajuice Silver Supporting Member

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    Was just given a Pro Tools Digi001 set up with all the software for PC or MAC. It os all complete but I need to get a Computer. This version uses thje suzzy card interface. Asking opinions MAC or PC. The new G5 will not take the suzzy but a G4 will. So the question is find a used G4 or build a new PC and if so what motherboard would you use.
     
  2. Kappy

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    Go Apple all the way. I have been a PC guy since 1997 and my next workstation computer will definitely be an Apple. Cut down on viruses, on worms, on popups, on Microsoft products, etc.
    Increase the power to control your computer to very minute levels (if you so desire), and on the beautiful interface (or just about any interface you choose -- not just one like Windows gives you), etc. etc. The advantages are too many not to choose Apple.

    The only drawback is the buy in price, which is usu. at least $300. more. That does suck, but you get so much more back it's totally worth it.
     
  3. LSchefman

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    by suzzy do you mean SCSI (small computer systems interface)? If so, you can install a SCSI card in a G5 no problem, there are several on the market.
     
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    Papajuice Silver Supporting Member

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    Correct it is the interface between the computer and the contoller. I talked to the. qoute Apple specialist at Fry's today and they said that the G5 would not take this type of card. And seeing that I have no Mac experince I assumed they were correct.
     
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    Highly improbable. It's probably just a couple hundred extra bucks at the most....and a child could install one. Maybe he didn't know what a "suzzy" card was. ;)
     
  6. Papajuice

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    So if I go the Mac route what type of spec would you recomend. I'am going to use for recording only.
     
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    G5s are not "Digidesign" approved for use with Digi 001s, so I would stay away. The software that will run on a G5 might not even recognize the interface. I would go with a G4, with the savings you could get fast hard drive and extra RAM.

    In thinking about it... the 001 doesn't connect with SCSI but with PCI. built into the G4.

    Steve
     
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    Thanks for the info it look's like a G4 is the way. Not to sound stupid but how can you ID the cable.
     
  9. Bassomatic

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    Not to get into the typical pissing contest, but i've gotta disagree.

    (Popups and viruses aren't an issue here, but i'm careful and thorough.)

    Truth is there are advantages and disadvantages to both platforms, and one can't really go wrong withe either if they know what they're doing (arguably less important in the MacWorld).
     
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    I'm a professional so what might seem simple to me is like advanced Latin grammar to others. Assuming the average user will know enough to avoid IE and only use Firefox with the adblock and flashblock plugins, will know to modify his hosts file to block popup and spyware sites, will know to use Spybot S&D, etc. etc. just to block popups is asking a bit much.

    And that doesn't address Windows and viruses/worms, some of which can even spread over shared drives on the network (so even if you're smart enough not to open strange attachments in your email you are still susceptible if you're on a network with other Windows users).

    But you're right. Both OSes have their ups and downs. I just think Apples downs aren't quite the hellish depths of Microsoft's.
     
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    Brian, the 001 comes with the PCI card and its own ribbon cable, it will be very clear where to seat the card....depending on the G4 model there will be three open pci slots, or two with one occupied by a video card.

    Hey as an Apple guy I'd agree that you can be just as productive with a PC but only if it is dedicated strictly to recording, if you'll be using it to connect to the internet, check mail, etc. it's not worth the vigilance required to prevent spyware, adware, viruses etc.
     
  12. pbradt

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    I have a G4 and an 001 and there are a couple things to keep in mind:

    PTLE 6.4 is the LAST version of PT that will let you use the 001. If you upgrade to 6.7, you'll need an Mbox or 002 to use it.

    Get as much G4 as you can afford. They're all over Ebay, a dual 1ghz or 1.25ghz will give you a lot of power, esp for track count and plug-ins.

    1gb of RAM is really advisable.

    PM or email me if you have any questions, I'll be around this weekend.
     
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    If you're using the computer ONLY for recording, there's not much difference now ProTools-wise between PC & Mac.

    I use a Mac, because I love Macs and despise PCs :)

    If it was me, I'd get a used G4, max the RAM, and party on!

    --chiba
     
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    Thanks for all the help I will be looking for a Mac now. This will also open the door to the ever expanding video needs that my daughter uses.
     
  15. mikeyp123

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    What's the sense in buying a Mac when the PowerPC will be replaced with an Intel CPU.. you might be in a world of hurt when software companies stop making PowerPC based releases of their programs, it could be a couple years, but it will happen...

    I'd wait for the new Intel based Macs.. or get a Windows machine.

    I've been very successful with XP and audio production.
     
  16. pbradt

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    ...than ever buy a Windows machine.

    IMO, Windows is a wretched excuse for an operating system.
     
  17. mikeyp123

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    sweet.. lets hope you keep using macs then... I for one am an OS agnostic.. doesn't make a lick of a difference to me. Although I do like the UNIX shell on OS X, but that reserved for hardcore geeks.

    Both are equally capable when it comes to music production. Just take heed my warning in previous post... bring it up with the alterna-dork at the apple store.

    Your best bet is probably a pieced-togther-custom-PC.. the larger builders, ie Dell, may skimp in areas that could create conflicts with certain audio hardware.. I suppose you can't go wrong with a mac.
     
  18. Bassomatic

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    Um, okay, but is thread about you?:confused:
     
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    To quote someone from a previous mac/pc post....

    Heaven help us, here we go again......
     
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    I'd agree with this. I'm still a pedestrian but I did have the 001 system a while back and had lots of problems trying to use it on a PC. Finally gave up. I know lots of people who use it quite well on Mac's.

    Also, at the church where I play they have a Dual Proc G5 with Tiger OS. I gotta tell ya...the OS ROCKS!! I love the interface and it's really nice for recording. they use MOTU at the church.

    If you knew me you'd know how significant it is that I say this. Let us say...I work for a major software company. The next computer I buy for my home will be a G5 Mac.

    jeffhef
     

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