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Pedal for Modern Searing Leads into a Clean Amp

Discussion in 'Effects, Pedals, Strings & Things' started by Ape2000, Sep 11, 2019.

  1. Ape2000

    Ape2000 Supporting Member

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    Hey y'all,

    Looking for a solid drive/distortion/preamp pedal that can take a clean or edge of break up tone and push into hot liquid lead territory.

    Players/tones I like:

    • Teppei Teranishi from Thrice - currently Vox/Marshall/Supro/Bassman cranked with a TS and comp. Used to be a Mesa guy.
    • David Gilmour - Hiwatt+Muff+Colorsound+ridiculous chops
    • Jerry Cantrell - hot rodded Marshall/Bogner/Friedman
    • Petrucci/Timmons - Mesa
    • I grew up on a lot of 2000's "post hardcore" and metalcore and like some of the modern-era prog metal/djent, so that's another part of the lead tone DNA I seek. That said, that's not what I play. More of a post-rock/post-metal sort of guy.(bands like Funeral for a Friend, The Receiving End of Sirens, Periphery)

    I'd love to find something that captures the HBE tone - not sure how the Friedman BE-OD does on that front. Other pedals I've considered include: Mesa Flux Drive, one of the Bogner offerings, 5150 overdrive, Amptweaker offerings and Abasi Pathos.

    What do you recommend? This would be going into a Mesa Electra Dyne set relatively clean.

    My main axe is a custom built jazzmaster with a warmoth neck. Korina body, wenge neck with ebony board. (one in my sig).
    Zhangbucker p90 neck, firebird middle, Wilde/Bill Lawrence L90 bridge.
     
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  2. slicepaperdavid

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    Bogner Red or Friedman BE-OD are hard to beat for this. Sound and feel very 'amp like'
     
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    You didn’t mention what guitar you use in this rig; that makes a huge difference.

    Off-hand, I would suggest the Bogner Ecstasy Red, Abasi Pathos, Wampler Dracarys and the Keeley Filaments.
     
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    I knew I forgot something. Thanks for pointing that out.

    My main axe is a custom built jazzmaster with a warmoth neck. Korina body, wenge neck with ebony board. (one in my sig).
    Zhangbucker p90 neck, firebird middle, Wilde/Bill Lawrence L90 bridge.
     
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    Bogner red.
     
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    Diezel VH4 one button model
     
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  8. JosephZdyrski

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    For me a Rat does Liquid Lead about as well as anything else, if not better.
     
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    How are you setting yours? I know we've talked on a few threads. I'm digging it for tight rhythmic stuff a la Tool; but I think for a lead tone, I have something different. Could be in the settings! You running it standalone or with any other pedals?
     
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    Classic pedal, and one I've had a few times and a few variations of (including an original). I've liked it as a fuzzstortion for the smoother side of leads when I had it.
     
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  12. Ape2000

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    3 votes for the Bogner Red, 2 for the Filaments. Nice.

    Admittedly, that Abasi Pathos has piqued my interest quite a bit for some reason.

    I had a Bogner Burnley a while ago and loved it for heavy rhythms (think Russian Circles). It'd be a bit too dark with my current set up. Intrigued by the Red. Original or mini?

    As for the Filaments, that thing gets a lot of love. I'll see what I can do to track these down and test em out.
     
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    +1 on the Rat. Also, One Control Strawberry Red can do "searing lead."
     
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    This is very new so you won't find reviews yet. There is a software version so it can give a good idea.

    Aside boss digital distortions, I've always preferred to stack and od to dist. pedal. You sure can get a lead tone with 1 pedal but if want a "searing" with a clean amp then either stack or it must have its own boost.
     
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    Good point regarding stacking. The Rat/TS combo is well regarded for a reason. This Andy James pedal seems rad...
     
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    I'm using an EHX Glove and mt2, going straight to soundcard only using an ir like in andy's video. Pedal selection is personal but if stacking I strongly advice the od pedal having a bass knob or switch, very useful for distortion shaping.
     
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  17. Ape2000

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    I like that focus footswitch. Also, holy chops. I always forgot how great of a player he is.
     
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    At first, I had a couple suggestions... but, then after reading through the others -- I thought, maybe I don't know "searing" tones at all. Dunno....

    I was going to say Fulltone Plimsoul (because it is basically a rat+ts, right?) and maybe TrueTone (visual sound) Jekyll & Hyde.
     
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  19. Ape2000

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    Hey, we all use some of these goofy tone terms differently and hope we're close. I think some of these are more modern or based on high gain preamps than others; but, people have accomplished things in different ways.
     
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    Underrated pedal
     
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