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Pedal for Sananta tone, into a SS amp

Discussion in 'Effects, Pedals, Strings & Things' started by Luke, Oct 5, 2006.

  1. Luke

    Luke Senior Member

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    Friend just started playing guitar again. He asked me if there is a pedal that will give him that compressed, sustained Santana tone. He has a basic, cheap solid state amp that he is ok with its clean tone. So what will make such an amp sound like a cranked Dumble? :jo
     
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    hahaha, I may get laughed at for this one, but I've heard some good creamy overdrives come out of the PodXT... Although if there was a pedal that made a cheap solid state amp sound like a Dumble or Boogie Mark I, why we spend so much money on Klons, DR Zs, Demeters and such? hahah
     
  4. Aruntang

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    Mesa Boogie V-Twin Preamp Pedal might help your friend. Though it might cost as much or more than your friends solid state amp.
     
  5. curtisstetka

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    I used a Fulldrive II into a Roland JC-120 for several years.
     
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    A440 Silver Supporting Member

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    an old proco rat will get you there
     
  7. Dr Rico

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    If your friend is careful to not overdrive the SS amp (i.e. run it perfectly clean), the Barber Burn Unit will work. I've done it and it is better than adequate.
     
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    Just tell him that it cannot be done with a SS amp.
    Instead of wasting money on various pedals over the years to try and emulate his sound, just lay buy a good tube amp, he'll need never buy another drive pedal again, be extremely happy with his purchase and live happily ever after.
     
  9. Big0range

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    It's not the pedal - he needs to buy a PRS Santana III. :D
     
  10. Moe45673

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    A tonebone Hot British does it for me into my SS amp. Also, try rolling the tone knob back some
     
  11. Powderfinger

    Powderfinger Gold Supporting Member

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    Although it doesn't get a lot of play here, I'm a big fan of the SansAmp GT-2. You can get a million different sounds, including smooth and creamy. And since it's designed to function as a direct box, it's perfect for running through a SS amp to emulate a tube amp.
     
  12. LVC

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    ZenDrive nails -- Santana tone. I use it with my Fuchs ODS (through single coils!)

    I set the Fuchs ODS to a light gain -- Gain at 10 (tone controls around 11) input at 11 out put at 10) also amp is tuned for lighter gain.

    Set the Zendrive to the following

    Vol 10 Tone 2 Voice 11 Dist 11) --- pretty much nails Santana --- throw the mid boost on the Fuchs and I am in RF land (think Miller's Son).

    A timmy will get you there as well -- not as good as Zen -- but close enough

    Also a much cheaper solution for an SS amp (and one that give you a lot of flex) is the PODXT --- you can actually download some pretty good Santana settings from their website.
     
  13. Ed Alvarado

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    Barber Direct Drive and a neck humbucker.
     
  14. Lolaviola

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    For cheap...how about a nano-muff?
     
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    Your best bet may be using two pedals, you'll find that if you run a TS9 into a DS-1 you can get some pretty good sustaining compressed tones. You can get both pedals used for a total under $125.

    TheGrooveking
     
  16. Blues Wail

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    try a MI audio blues pro for the compressed sustain santana tone as far as the dumble. barber small fry, zendrive.(good luck)- menatone howie, hao rumble mod and others can chime in.
     
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    easy. any pedal into a v-stack into a clean SS amp.
     
  18. Brett Valentine

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    MI Audio Blue Boy Deluxe does a good job, but the Tube Zone get's a bit closer to my ears. The Tone and Mid knobs can get you close to that big midrange warmth, and the Character knob does a pretty good job of getting that thick bottom end tone he has when he pays down low.

    Brett
     
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    Try the Mesa Boogie V-Twin pedal. I was easily able to get the Santana tone into a Marshall AVT amp's clean channel. Good pedal for that sound. Peace.
     
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    Cheap? Look into a fab tone, the tone controls are a bit touchy, but once you dial it in, it's pretty cool. And it has monster gain on tap! The gain probably won't need to be past 9 o'clock.
     

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