Pedal friendly EQ settings for amp?

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  1. cwells93

    cwells93 Member

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    Hi guys,

    If TL;DR, just start from the bold bit :)

    I have a Rivera Quiana (lovely amp, sounds great; for those who don't know about it, the simplest way to think of it is fendery cleans, dumbly/early marshall OD) and I love it's pure, no FX sounds, but recently I've wanted to play around with fuzz, and using OD for gain stacking. The problem is, I spend forever tweaking and tweaking for a clean platform that will work with the pedal. Currently, using my fuzz (wampler velvet) and OD (fulltone OCD) with the amp results in the amp sounding very choked, nothing like the OD/ cleans of the amp.

    I'm using a cab with v30s, and from what I hear there's a real thunderous bass and really barky mids, highs pleasant with single coils but a tad spiky with humbuckers (though I'm more for single coils!). When using humbuckers (via Gibson es 137 w/ bareknuckle mules), they can get a bit loose, especially in the bass sound. Single coils don't suffer this.

    I was wondering if anyone had a good starting point in terms of EQ that lends itself to a good pedal platform (fuzz and OD style). I'll list controls below;

    Clean channel:
    Treble w/ pull bright
    Mid w/ pull notch (switch between bassman/blackface style)
    Bass
    Master w/ pull boost (increase in volume and harmonics)
    Preamp
    Reverb
    Presence (post EQ brightness)
    Focus w/ pull warm

    Dirty channel:
    Volume
    Bass
    Middle
    Treble
    Master w/ pull boost

    All help appreciated!
    cwells93
     
  2. cwells93

    cwells93 Member

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    Overnight bump!
     
  3. XmasTree

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    an EQ in the fx loop will do amazing things
    an EQ in front of the amp will have great impact to the signal going in as well

    EQ pedals!

    some amps just aren't good with pedals (fuzz / dist / od)

    the distortion pedals i use sound amazing with my Bugera but don't sound good at all with my Mesa & Budda amps
    ..i always use an EQ pedal in the fx loop. no matter what
     
  4. cwells93

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    Thanks XmasTree, do you recommend any particular EQ pedal? I'm a little (unecessarily perhaps) wary of boss pedals, and tend to go for higher priced ones. I've never used them beforeso wouldn't know where to start!
     
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    Fromel Shape EQ is amazing.
     
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    +1. Such a powerful yet simple tone shaping tool (and quiet/low noise floor). I don't use it all the time, but it's a permanent fixture on my board. One of the single best investments you can make.
     
  7. DaveKS

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    Yea, EQ pedal. Mxr 10 band KK version.

    EQD Tone Job also a good simple tone balancer but not enough control for me.

    Parametrics, like Fromel, VFE Rocket, Empress ParaEQ and Stone Deaf PDF 1 are best. I use a Rocket.

    My newest and now one of the most used I have is VFE Triumvirate Boost (Boost model, not high gain one), way you can balance the tonal characteristics and the drive is amazing.
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  8. cwells93

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    Thanks for the EQ pedal suggestions guys! I'll definitely look into getting one :) Still, can anyone shed some light on a good starting point for EQing for the pedals I mentioned?

    I find the OCD is really temperamental, and doesn't like it's gain over halfway. The velvet fuzz is more forgiving. Is it worth dialing out a fair bit of bass for the pedals?
     
  9. DaveKS

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    I'd say it's your speakers voicing you don't like. You sound like you'd be happier in the greenback'ish range of speakers to me.

    Also what type cab? 2x12? 4x12?
     
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    i use the MXR 10 band EQ (in the FX loop)
    it can completely re-sculpt your sound that way (in many ways)
     

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