Pedal with built-in power amp? Anyone?

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  1. earthtonesaudio

    earthtonesaudio Member

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    I'm looking for any examples of a pedal with a built-in power amp capable of driving a speaker cab. Or, a power amp in the shape of a pedal, with knobs and footswitches on top, that sort of thing.

    I can't seem to find anything like this anywhere. Why is that?

    This is kind of a hybrid concept, so I posted a similar post over in the amp section. Mods, please feel free to move or re-name either post. Thanks!
     
  2. TooManyHobbies

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    Stephenson Stage Hog and the Koch Pedaltone.
     
  3. Blunder

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  4. earthtonesaudio

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    Thanks, the Koch Pedaltone looks about like what I was thinking, (lots of switches and knobs...)

    I wonder why they're all such puny little 1/2 Watt tykes? Maybe the builder wouldn't want people accidentally plugging a 100W speaker output into a stompbox input or recording console. Hm...
     
  5. TooManyHobbies

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    That 1/2 watt isn't so quiet, and neither would be the Stage Hog's 1 watt.

    Think exponential. You'd need approximately 10x the wattage for 2x the subjective loudness.
     
  6. Franktone

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    Yes, TooManyHobbies is right, Mark Stephenson says that some players plug their Stage Hog directly into a cabinet, and then mike it. He says "that works for some people".
     
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    Also to note, and I can only speak for the S.H., but it's underrated like most other boutique amps. I'd expect you'd need something like a 20 watter to double the output.
     
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    analogman super effector. 40 watt dual 6L6 power amp, with 4 x 10" speakers
     
  9. TooManyHobbies

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    What?
     
  10. earthtonesaudio

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    I found 1/2 watt to be not enough for a loud drummer. I'll probably do something 20-50W, and solid state because space and reliability are at a premium. Right now I'm looking at a LM3886 or TDA2050 based amp, maybe a pair of them if there's room.
     
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    Why Bother?

    Andy fuchs -- from fuchs Audio has this already covered.

    Demoed a proof of concept pro type at the NY amp show this year. It was used as a wet/dry for setup with his Fuchs amp --- pedal drove one of his plush mini speaker cabs in conjunction with a Lexicon Reverb.

    The wet/dry setup using his amp pedal was absolutely killer.

    IMHO -- he had the best sounding setup of the whole amp show.

    Hopefully he will be shipping soon -- I am on the list for one.


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  12. bloodlemons

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    OK. I'm sold.
     
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    FWIW - the Rocktron Banshee has one too.
     
  14. earthtonesaudio

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    Okay now that I've seen how small it can be, I'm definitely going to build something like this. That Fuchs thing must run on a laptop supply or something similar... strange to see something that powerful with a DC jack.
     
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  17. earthtonesaudio

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    Thanks for the replies, everyone. You have provided what I was looking for: visual inspiration for my next "big project," a DIY hybrid pedalboard/amp-in-one-box. When it's done I hope to have the fastest setup/teardown in the West! Guitar, speaker, and power cords, and that's all!
     

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