Pedalboards: Powered vs. Non-Powered

Discussion in 'Effects, Pedals, Strings & Things' started by auffredou, Feb 19, 2008.

  1. auffredou

    auffredou Member

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    Im liking the idea of a pedaltrain board, but I have at least 2 pedals that need to be powered by 12v. It looks like the voodoo labs pedal power cant do this? What do people think of something like a Furman versus a Pedaltrain with a power supply underneath it?
     
  2. analogmike

    analogmike Gold Supporting Member

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    The power supplies built in to pedalboards are usually a compromise, and do not have isolated outputs or good flexibility. Also if the power supply dies, then the board is not too useful, or if you break the board then the power supply is of no use. So I think finding a good supply and a good board for your intented use is usually best unless you have a simple setup. Good luck!
     
  3. thewex

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    i've always subscribed to the theory of having "separate components" like mike said. for flexibility of future pedal purchases and for safety against something breaking.
     
  4. snoggin

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    google pedalsnake .com I have one of these and it is really flexible. Its a snake for your pedal board and has 7 lines each capable of midi and multiple functions depending on need. I have one cable going to my board which carries power ( 2 different votages) wireless, loop send and return and I even do two separated heads at times with switching. I do run the cables for the footswitches for each head separate though . It really makes things neat and tidy and I havent found a down side yet. works very well with the pedaltrain boards as all the cabling tucks in nicely underneath
     
  5. majorledhead

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    A Burkey Flatliner has a 12 volt tap plus some other interesting options. I just don't know if it fits under the pedaltrain. Check thier web site out. A pedaltrain style board can be fabricated fairly easy to custom dimentions if needed.
     
  6. mike@nortoncable.com

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    the dunlop dc brick does upto 18V on 3 rails.
    then 7 reg 9v outs.

    I'm using all 10 atm on my pedalboard :)
     
  7. joejazzguitar

    joejazzguitar Silver Supporting Member

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    Not sure, but check out the Pedal Power manual..I believe that there is a DIP switch for each 9V output that, when thrown, bumps up the standard 9 VDC voltage to old Boss adapter specs, which is 12.2 volts.

    joe
     
  8. JBarlow

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    I've had GREAT results with a Juicebox from Pedalgear.net. It has a ton of different power options (from about 5 volts to 24!), as well as enough mA output to drive anything I've thrown at it. I've had it for a little over a year now, and it has been great!

    --Jason
     
  9. auffredou

    auffredou Member

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    thanks for all the info guys. i just went to the voodoo labs website, and as said, it appears there is a switch on all the 9v spots to change it to 12v.

    analogmike, the two 12v pedals are yours by the way (my ts9 silver and, because of my humbuckers, my mini bi-comp. love them both though!)


    so my next question would just about size of the pedaltrain boards. heres what Ill have when Im "done" (yeah right): Wah>mini bi-comp> 2-3 overdrives (ts9, Tim, and eventually king of tone), dd-20, and boss tu-2 tuner.

    As far as size goes, I dont know that it'll ever get much bigger than that, it may just be different stuff swapped in. Is a pedaltrain Jr. big enough? (Id like to have the wah on the board, not on the side)
     
  10. analogmike

    analogmike Gold Supporting Member

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    I think the pedaltrain-2 might be best for future expansion. Here's mine with a PP2 type supply on top (can go below) with a pedal on top of the power supply:

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  11. auffredou

    auffredou Member

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    cool mike, that looks like it might be the best bet, especially since theyre only about 20-30 bucks more than the jr.

    thanks!


    Edit: By the way, you say the PP2 CAN go underneath? I just checked your website and it says that this can only be done with the pro.
     
  12. jazzguitar

    jazzguitar Supporting Member

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    All of the new models have mounts for the pp2+. I just got a new PT2 off ebay with the hardware included.
     
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    I recently got a Furman PB-SPB-8C- it's power supply is totally buffered and isolated. I'm having no problems powering 8 9volt pedals. It doesn't have 12 volt taps though, you could use the 4 120v outlets to power your other pedals.

    The Gator cases pedal board and the SKB boards have 9 and 12 volt taps, I believe.
     
  14. Laroosco!

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    Just got a Pedal Train Jr that came with PP2 mounting hardware
     
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    FWIW, the Burkey Flatliner, Voodoo Labs PP2, T-Rex Fuel Tank and Dunlop DC Brick can all be securely tucked away under my Short and Standard boards. Ya know, just saying...
     
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    You can cram a ton on one of those PT2 boards. A-like so:

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  17. auffredou

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    nice, i just dont want it to look too bare, but i might have a little too much for the jr too.

    as far as cases go, can you just secure the pedals, and then when youre not playing you just shut the case and go? so all you really have to do is plug it in? sorry, never used a board other than a home-made wood board, and just thinking it would be nice to not have to set up/break down as much every time.
     
  18. OOG

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    i really like my little Gator board
    and use it more often than my Trailer Trash with the PP2

    the Gator's power supply isn't isolated
    but it does have 3 12V taps
    and their power supply velcro's to the bottom of the board

    only drawback was that my PP2 didn't fit underneath the board so i used their power supply
    it works fine for me
     
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    +1 Furman SPB-8C

    I've tried other powered boards, and this is the best. It covers all the power needs I have for up to 12 pedals (including the wall wart jacks), has plenty of space, and is really sturdily built. If I needed to expand I'd just have to buy another board. I wouldn't want a single one bigger than this.
     
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    Who makes the Pedal Power?

    Thanks

    brianf
     

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