Pedalboards Without Velcro

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  1. stucker

    stucker Member

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    Does anyone make a pedalboard that secures effects without velcro? Thanks.

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  2. Guff

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    Scott,

    I haven't needed to use Velcro with my "TM Case" (http://www.tmcases.com) pedalboard because the foam in the lid keeps the pedals in place pretty well. I've been very happy with this pedal board.
     
  3. dave-o

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    I use a pedal train and secure the pedals to the board with zip ties. I have had no luck with velcro, tears the lables from the back of my boss pedals, and moving them around is a pain because the glue isnt the same after it comes off. I love zip ties!
     
  4. onemind

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    I'm thinking of creating a pedal board that uses dense foam which has been die-cut for certain shapes and sizes of pedals, as well as channels for routing wires. Not sure where to get the source material though. I found some adhesive backed foam in an Arts and Crafts shop but it was too thin (about an eighth of an inch, I'd like to find foam at least a half an inch or more.

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  5. delk777

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    It might not be inexpensive but perhaps you could use soundproofing material such as Aurelex tiles that they sell at the online chain music superstores?

    - Delk
     
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    Thanks Delk, But I'd really like to find closed cell, thick foam something more dense...The closest thing I've found is a Pilates Mat!
     
  7. tubes4tone

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    I have definitely experienced the same thing. I even have one of the gi-hugic Bad Cat 2-Tone pedals on there, unvelcroed, and it hasn't moved with just the foam to put pressure on it. It works for me!
     
  8. jeffhef

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    I went to a local bike shop and the owner gave me a scrap chain for nothing. It was about 18 inches long if I remember correctly. I bought a tool to disassemble the links and spent 30 minutes taking it apart.

    I use the links - 2 per pedal seems to be plenty - to secure my pedals to the board. Here's a pic...

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    I used to do the zip tie thing. It works great as well.

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  9. guitarz_dave

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    Definitely. I use mini bungee chords to strap my pedals on a rubber-coated wire shelf from the hardware store. While it does not look fancy, this is strong and sturdy, while being quite light in weight.
     
  10. skiraly017

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    I'll second this, Works great and doesn't damage the pedal.
     
  11. jeffhef

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    Yep. Bike chains are cheap even if you have to buy one. The tool is less than $10. I've actually thought of selling the links on ebay. There are people selling them at ridiculous prices. Anyway...this is the tool...

    http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?...5257&sku=13767&storetype=&estoreid=&pagename=

    Sometimes you have to be creative. Like with Fulltone pedals. I made a special 2 piece link to use on my OCD. Also, some pedals - like the Bad Monkey - have recessed screws on the bottom. I use a longer screw for these.

    Wroks great for me.

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  12. stucker

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    jeffhaff,
    I really like your idea of using the bike chain links. Also, thanks for your board photo and the description of the chain tool. I guess most bike shops have these in stock. Can you tell me the brand of pedal board you use. I want to make sure I buy a model that has a good surface for accepting the screws. Thanks.

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  13. jeffhef

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    First...don't want to take credit as if this were my original idea. I actually got the idea from someone on this forum about a year ago.

    Now...

    My case is a cheap aluminum case I bought at Sam Ash about 2 years ago. I think you can get one about like it on Ebay now for about $40.

    The board itself is homemade. I bought a piece of Oak or something...something inexpensive...from Lowes and trimmed it to size. The one I have in the picture is 1/2". But you can use 1/4" as well and it's a bit lighter.

    I bought a piece of upholstery fabric from a local fabric store and turned it over for the black felt surface. It was cheap as well. I secured it to the board with spray glue - 3m. BTW...this is just for looks. the cover really serves no other purpose. I could just as easily secure them to a raw piece of wood.

    I use small wood screws I bought at Lowes to secure the pedals to the board.

    All in all...materials, tool & case I MAY have $75 invested.

    Cool thing is that I've got enough of the links left to do another 4 or 5 boards. You get a BUNCH of links taking one of the chains apart.

    There are actually people selling these things as kits on ebay and the net...

    If I can find one of the ad's I'll post it.

    jeffhef
     
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    not all pedals will allow this though, only if it has screws on the bottom of the pedal.:D
     
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    Not exactly correct. You just have to be a little more creative. Take another look at the photo. I have an OCD mounted using these links and the screws for them are on the sides.

    In the case of the OCD I left 2 links attached to either at one end. The one of the links I bent into a right angle. I attached one end to the side screws on the pedal and the bent link to the board.

    That's why I think it's better to do it the way I did rather than buying the already disassembled links. If you run into something like this you can usually rig it to work.

    I have yet to run across a pedal I couldn't connect using the links in some fashion. Even the Ernie Ball Volume pedal is attached using them.

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  16. jeffhef

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    I AM about tired of dealing with the GeorgeL cables though. I've been using them for about 2 years. I use a meter to check continuity. I've gotten good at making the cables. But they seem to not hold up well. They'll just stop working. Also, when I move things around a cable that was working fine will stop working.

    I'd like to try a good alternative to these things. Any suggestions? Don't mean to hijack the thread.

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  17. sssmile

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    you always need velcro
     
  18. Layne-o

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    Jeff,

    I understand your distaste with George L's. Personally, I've never liked them. I've had great luck soldering my own cables. Check out the following links for cable and 1/4" ends:

    http://www.redco.com/
    http://www.altex.com/product_info.php?cPath=3_106_330_333&products_id=3996

    I've placed orders with both and had great success in building cables to exact lengths needed.

    Sincerely,
     
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    I use something MUCH better than velcro:3M DUAL LOCK.
    This material is BULLETPROOF :cool:
     
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    I may have missed this somewhere, but to secure the link to the pedal I'm assuming you just unscrew the existing pedal screws, set a link, then replace the screw?

    You just might be onto something here...
     

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