Pedaltrain Pro or ???

[shawnjawn]

I was wondering if someone can help me out with my pedalboard setup. I've recently ran out of space on my pedaltrain 2, so I bought a SKB PS8. However, the power supply for that went out on me, so now I'm using two One-Spots into a Furman SS-6B

As you can probably tell, this creates quite a hiss. Keep in mind, I'm still a beginner just playing at open mics every once in a while. One venue in particular has one outlet with two sockets, so the bassist usually plugs his amp into one, while I plug my Furman powerstrip w/ pedals...and my amp I know this is horrible but I guess it's the price I pay for playing at small venues.

Anyways, I was thinking of upgrading to the Pedaltrain Pro or the 32x18 pedalboard by Bradycases, and just wanted some opinions on my setup. I am looking to get two Voodoo Labs if they can reduce the hiss...but considering the venue only having two plugs, how would you go about plugging the power supplies, amp, etc?

 

[AXXA]

For power, simply use a multi-outlet power strip. Plug that into the wall and everything else into that. I always bring one and an extension cord to gigs.

I think you can fit those pedals onto a pro, just keep in mind the top row will expand once your patch cables are plugged in. Just play around with the order a bit before securing it all down to get the best setup for you. And remember, you don't have to physically arrange the pedals in the actual order of the signal chain, since cables can go underneath the board. And yes, the PP2+ power supplies will help with the hiss. BTW, I'm using a Pro and a PP2+ as well. Good luck!

 

[pulse.]

It's impossible to find a way to have those pedals so close,
I'm referring on the upper row

 

[MrSoGood]

This may or may not be for you, but I had a similar dilemma with outgrowing my PT-1 so this is what I did:

https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/1018487&highlight=brady+case

However, I went this route because I was very happy with my PT-1 setup, but just needed extra room for the volume and wah, and I wanted to be able to transport it in one shot. The Brady Case pedalboard may be a better solution for you depending on what you want. Brady did a great job on mine, and I can highly recommend them. Hope this helps, I'll be happy to answer any questions if you have any.

 

[BootRoots]

That might be tight on the pro but play around with it and im sure you could get it to fit. As far as power goes, just power one of the pedal powers in the courtesy outlet of the other one. Then you only have one plug going to the wall.

 

[shawnjawn]

For power, simply use a multi-outlet power strip. Plug that into the wall and everything else into that. I always bring one and an extension cord to gigs.

I think you can fit those pedals onto a pro, just keep in mind the top row will expand once your patch cables are plugged in. Just play around with the order a bit before securing it all down to get the best setup for you. And remember, you don't have to physically arrange the pedals in the actual order of the signal chain, since cables can go underneath the board. And yes, the PP2+ power supplies will help with the hiss. BTW, I'm using a Pro and a PP2+ as well. Good luck!

Thanks for your help! That's exactly what I needed to hear.

It's impossible to find a way to have those pedals so close,
I'm referring on the upper row

I just realized this Well...I hope it will all still fit. I just hope I can get over this pedal addiction

This may or may not be for you, but I had a similar dilemma with outgrowing my PT-1 so this is what I did:

https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/1018487&highlight=brady+case

However, I went this route because I was very happy with my PT-1 setup, but just needed extra room for the volume and wah, and I wanted to be able to transport it in one shot. The Brady Case pedalboard may be a better solution for you depending on what you want. Brady did a great job on mine, and I can highly recommend them. Hope this helps, I'll be happy to answer any questions if you have any.

This helped a lot! I'm guessing I would still by the Pro because I like the pedaltrain's easy access and what not. A true bypass pedalboard would be cool though too, but so much more money than I am willing to spend. The Pro's ATA Case from Brady is about $230, which is not too bad. The reason I really like the Brady Cases is because of the handles that you can use to take out the board....the only reason I don't really want the PT-Pro's ATA Case...but then again, it might not make much a difference.

That might be tight on the pro but play around with it and im sure you could get it to fit. As far as power goes, just power one of the pedal powers in the courtesy outlet of the other one. Then you only have one plug going to the wall.

Thanks BootRoots! I will keep you guys updated once I can afford everything

 

[4nd3h]

You're a beginner with a setup like that? Man, am I jealous.

 

[Bufferz]

I recommend getting a custom footswitch box instead of that boss one that takes up way to much space. You could get the same thing in an mxr sized enclosure.

 

[etimaila]

You're gonna have a hard time accuratly hitting that phase 90 & OD on top of a higher pedal like that volume pedal there. Also, you are not going to be able to stick those pedals so close to one another.

I suggest you move them to the left and get a smaller footswitch indeed. Do you really need it ?

 

[shawnjawn]

You're a beginner with a setup like that? Man, am I jealous.

If only # of pedals = skill I bought a lot of pedals out of whim and regret it.

I recommend getting a custom footswitch box instead of that boss one that takes up way to much space. You could get the same thing in an mxr sized enclosure.

You're gonna have a hard time accuratly hitting that phase 90 & OD on top of a higher pedal like that volume pedal there. Also, you are not going to be able to stick those pedals so close to one another.

I suggest you move them to the left and get a smaller footswitch indeed. Do you really need it ?

Yeah I didn't have that in mind when I was organizing the board. And I honestly do not need the footswitch, and rarely use it, so I should be able to fit all of the pedals better.

So if I get a Pedaltrain Pro (32x16), it will be
PT-PRO w/ softcase: $150
VoodooLabs PP2 x2: $340
PT-PRO BradyCase: $225
Total: ~$715

If I go with the Bradycase Board 32x18
Board w/ Polypropylene: $364
VoodooLabs PP2 x2: $340
Total: ~$704

I don't know a lot about the Bradycase Boards, but it seems like I might be safer getting a size bigger (36x18) which will factor into the expense

 

[npfrs]

Consider an ISO5 instead of a second PP2+ to save a bit of money.

 

[Wolf Child]

You don't need a PT-Pro... You need less pedals.

 

[npfrs]

You don't need a PT-Pro... You need less pedals.

 

[FLYING V 83]

A PP2+ for the digital pedals
A One Spot for everything else
a 6-outlet power strip and a PT Pro
that's all you need

 

[jb4674]

Get a Cioks DC-10 and an AC-10 and you should be able to power everything without wallwarts. I'd also get the PT-Pro.

 

[shawnjawn]

You don't need a PT-Pro... You need less pedals.

Haha, that would actually solve my problems. I can't remember the last time I used my Fuzz Factory, and the only reason I bought a DD6 was because of the hold function. I definitely didn't need a Space Echo since I have delays and Reverb. And I don't use distortion or the wah much.

A PP2+ for the digital pedals
A One Spot for everything else
a 6-outlet power strip and a PT Pro
that's all you need

I didn't even consider using the one spot still. I actually tested out my one spot only plugging it into the Wah, Rat, Fuzz Factory, and Phase 90...and it of course is noticeably quieter as opposed to having 11 pedals plugged in. I think I will go this route unless anybody has a reason that I should go with 2 Voodoo Labs. Thanks Flying V!

Get a Cioks DC-10 and an AC-10 and you should be able to power everything without wallwarts. I'd also get the PT-Pro.

I will keep this in mind as well. Thanks!

 

[FLYING V 83]

I didn't even consider using the one spot still. I actually tested out my one spot only plugging it into the Wah, Rat, Fuzz Factory, and Phase 90...and it of course is noticeably quieter as opposed to having 11 pedals plugged in. I think I will go this route unless anybody has a reason that I should go with 2 Voodoo Labs. Thanks Flying V!

You're quite welcome.
No sense wasting money unless you have it to waste and are easily influenced by others' opinions.

 

[AXXA]

Haha, that would actually solve my problems. I can't remember the last time I used my Fuzz Factory, and the only reason I bought a DD6 was because of the hold function. I definitely didn't need a Space Echo since I have delays and Reverb. And I don't use distortion or the wah much.

BTW, most people don't use pedalboards to hold their entire pedal collection, though it is an entirely personal thing and you of course can do whatever you want. But most people, like myself, only put the pedals they need for their playing circumstances on their pedalboard. For example, my pedalboard is for my band's music, so I use it for practicing with them and for gigs. I keep 12 pedals on it, but I have another 15 pedals or so laying around also. I also have a smaller board for bringing to small jams. Just thought I'd point this out, in case it avoids you some headaches trying to make a gigantic board. Oh, and a PT-Pro loaded with pedals and power supplies is very heavy, the smaller you can make your board, the better, if its gonna be carried anywhere.

 

[shawnjawn]

BTW, most people don't use pedalboards to hold their entire pedal collection, though it is an entirely personal thing and you of course can do whatever you want. But most people, like myself, only put the pedals they need for their playing circumstances on their pedalboard. For example, my pedalboard is for my band's music, so I use it for practicing with them and for gigs. I keep 12 pedals on it, but I have another 15 pedals or so laying around also. I also have a smaller board for bringing to small jams. Just thought I'd point this out, in case it avoids you some headaches trying to make a gigantic board. Oh, and a PT-Pro loaded with pedals and power supplies is very heavy, the smaller you can make your board, the better, if its gonna be carried anywhere.

I just used pedalboardplanner's site and put only the pedals I really use (9/15) and it looked doable. I guess the only reason I'm interested in the pro is so I can just use one board regardless of where I am and to have more options. I just kind of want to be able to keep everything organized and in one place now.

I use the SKB and PT-2 now and it just takes me a little too long to set up everything and it looks messy. I've read that the PT-Pro is heavy and weighs about 7 lbs without anything on it. I will most likely go the Soft Case route and maybe get the brady case in the future...but about how much would you say it weighs for you? I have a rock n roller cart so it's not a problem transporting.

 

[FLYING V 83]

I'd get a hard case for the Pro if I were you, mine weighs in @ 50 lbs loaded.
I bought my 34x20 a few years ago on ebay from Island Cases for $89 and have never needed anything else.
I put two large pieces of "egg crate" foam in it and the board is held securely with no movement at all.

It's strong enough to handle my 93lb Peavey VTX 212 on top of it in my trunk, in case you think it looks flimsy.
The soft case won't hold up to a loaded board for long, and offers little protection for your pedals.
I bought the Pro & sold the soft case.
Here's an old shot showing the board in the case: