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Peter Green - Black magic woman question

Alexalaguit

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Hey,
I'm a new fan of Peter Green and i was listening to Black magic woman Live at Boston Tea Party.

At around 2:50 the riff switch and a solo follow for the rest of the song.
I would like to know if it's a merge from another song or if its just some improvisation. It's not on the original, studio version.

Finally, do anyone knows if a tab exist for this?

Thanks a lot
 

dmagalhaes

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If you are referring to to when it switches to a shuffle then I think that's just part of their live version. I doubt you will find tab for any of it so I suggest you try to learn it by ear. Those licks are not very difficult to learn and I think it's in Dm. That whole record is a great lesson in British blues.
 

Cream

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IIRC, I don't think that it's any particular song other than a straightforward shuffle but if you dig it then B.B. King's Live in Japan album will be right up your alley. It's B.B.'s hardest rockin' album.
 

stevieboy

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All Your Love Otis Rush
Woke Up This Morning BB King
Hard Way T Bone Walker

Three examples of songs that have a sort of a Latin beat that go into a shuffle in the middle, that Peter Green was probably familiar with. It was and remains a common move in blues tunes. Cool that Green would throw it in on that song live.
 

tapeworm

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All Your Love Otis Rush
Woke Up This Morning BB King
Hard Way T Bone Walker

Three examples of songs that have a sort of a Latin beat that go into a shuffle in the middle, that Peter Green was probably familiar with. It was and remains a common move in blues tunes. Cool that Green would throw it in on that song live.
RHUMBA!!! :) My favorite version of All Your Love

 

Cream

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Just a very small side note for anyone interested and reading: If you're considering buying these on iTunes you should know that they've condensed 3 nights worth of sets (and 3 CDs) into only 2 Vols. artificially by removing and reordering some tracks. I've written reviews on iTunes but they may not show, so if you really want the full un-edited sets buy the CDs or else you'll be missing some tracks.
 

stevieboy

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Another very possible influence on Green with the minor mambo/rhumba/whatever beats here is "Who's Been Talkin'" ( which may well have itself been influenced by Lucky Lou of course), the Wolf being one of the best known bluesmen and bigger inspirations for the Brits at that time.
 

fredgarvin

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All Your Love Otis Rush
Woke Up This Morning BB King
Hard Way T Bone Walker

Three examples of songs that have a sort of a Latin beat that go into a shuffle in the middle, that Peter Green was probably familiar with. It was and remains a common move in blues tunes. Cool that Green would throw it in on that song live.
Nice pull.
 

sideman

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This song from Jody Williams from 1957 has that sound to. before Otis Rush.Jody played on so many classic Chicago blues songs in the 50's.
Lucky Lou
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmYW7iSiqNo
I think that Otis Rush was playing in Chicago in the early and mid-50s. He recorded 10 Cobra sides in 1956 and '57:
1956 "I Can't Quit You Baby" / "Sit Down Baby" (Cobra 5000)
1956 "My Love Will Never Die" / "Violent Love" (Cobra 5005)
1957 "Groaning The Blues" / "If You Were Mine" (Cobra 5010)
1957 "Jump Sister Bessie" / "Love That Woman" (Cobra 5015)
1957 "She's A Good 'Un" / "Three Times A Fool" (Cobra 5023)

But yeah, Williams's (killer) Lucky Lou was recorded in 1957, a year before Rush's 1958 All Your Love (which sounds alot like Lucky Lou).
 

EL 34 X2

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I always wondered why it was that so many of the British Blues boom artists covered the same songs so often. The more research and reading I've done points to them having access to a very limited number of blues records at the time in England.

So the same compilations were being heard by a variety of young enthusiasts around the same time period. A lot of records simply weren't available in England until people were able to bring them back after touring in America. The same scenario was happening with Fender and Gibson guitars.
 

GulfportBound

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Hey,
I'm a new fan of Peter Green and i was listening to Black magic woman Live at Boston Tea Party.

At around 2:50 the riff switch and a solo follow for the rest of the song.
I would like to know if it's a merge from another song or if its just some improvisation. It's not on the original, studio version.
Uh, yes it is . . . (at 2:07) . . . it just fades away quicker than when they'd perform it live . . .

 

GulfportBound

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Another very possible influence on Green with the minor mambo/rhumba/whatever beats here is "Who's Been Talkin'" ( which may well have itself been influenced by Lucky Lou of course), the Wolf being one of the best known bluesmen and bigger inspirations for the Brits at that time.
Indeed it was . . .

 




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