Phaser before or after OD?

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  1. waylay00

    waylay00 Member

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    I've tried placing my phaser before and after my overdrive, and both positions sound good.

    Where do most people put the phaser? Just wondering to see where the guitar greats place theirs too.

    Right now, my chain is as follows:

    Teese RMC3 > Strobostomp V2 > Tonepress Compressor > Keeley TS9DX > Xotic BB Preamp > MXR Vintage '74 Phaser > amp
     
  2. nibus

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    Most people put it after so the overdrive is pushing the phase. But it depends on what you like!
     
  3. codeorama

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    I've tried my phase 90 after and it sounds ok, but IMO, placing it before makes it sound bigger. YMMV
     
  4. FloridaSam

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    I like my phase before dirt.
     
  5. meterman

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    I put my Retrosonic phaser in between my fuzz and my overdrive. That way I can get over the top swoosh (fuzz>phaser) or more subtle, watery sounding phase (phase>OD). Works great for me
     
  6. GBStratman

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    Seriously, who here has just one OD or dirt pedal? I sandwich my modulation effects (wah, envelope filter and phaser) between fuzz and ODs:

    London fuzz -> Vox Wah -> Emma discumbobulator -> Tonepress -> HBE psilocype -> Crunchbox -> Keeley TS9 -> DD20

    This way, I get it either way, depending on my mood.
     
  7. enocaster

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    Yup, putting it between your Keeley and BB will give you both options.
     
  8. Mitch T

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    phaser, just like wah, before all dirt. The only way to go IMO.
     
  9. semi-hollowbody

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    i USED to have it after od but now its before...sounds better and clearer to my ears before...its an eq based pedal so I guess it also depends where most of your eq'ing is done...I also have an eq pedal first in the chain to boost mids and lows, and then my wah, octave, and phaser...then my compression, fuzz, and overdrive, THeN a second eq that I use to do the majority of my eq'ing...
     
  10. Alter

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    i also place it before the od and boosters
     
  11. jamison162

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    +1, except fuzz. Fuzz First.
     
  12. Ben C.

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    Depends on what kind of fuzz ;)
    I have my 2 phasers before my 2 fuzzes and they don't mind a bit (Muff types).

    -Ben
     
  13. Josh O

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    another after fuzz but before regular OD user here.
     
  14. mrp3118

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    Do you guys do the same thing for a flanger if you use one?
     
  15. Joses

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    Definitely before the drives.

    I used to do it after, but it sorta just was noisy (for lack of a better term) in that position rather than being defined (as it is now that its before).

    Note: I've heard of some using phaser after delay...and in my head, I imagine it would sound pretty good actually (never tried though...I really should one day)
     
  16. sega

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    Hi,

    Did you tried the BYOC phaser?
    Cause I would like to know the difference between the Retro-sonic and the BYOC phasers.
     
  17. RC2

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    I put my Retro-Sonic after NKT Fuzz and before Si. Fuzz and OD
     
  18. Jumblefingers

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    Generally speaking before an OD will sound more chunky and less "effected" depending on how your OD works. I have a Blackstone and alas I cannot put a phaser before it but many other OD's work fine...the BS is finicky this way.

    If you think about most of the classic sounds from zeppelin and others it is the phaser feeding the OD/OD amp. Behind the OD you get much more swoosh and it can sound....really swooshy. A phaser after a fuzz is usually better due to the extreme gain...can get lost in front.
     
  19. semi-hollowbody

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    no...flanging is more of a time based effect so I place it with the rest of the modulation...my chain is:
    guitar-eq-wah-phaser-octave-filter-compressor-fuzz-overdrive-distortion-eq-chorus-flanger-tremolo-volume pedal-delay-reverb-amp
     
  20. Wooley

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    Phase before for me. Drives tend to distort the phase and give you more of a hard-rock/heavy-metal type of phase. I like to hear my drivers just rolling around in waves of phase, which is how it sounds when set up pre-gain.
     

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