Phat Cats users: Do they REALLY do the P-90 thing?

Discussion in 'Effects, Pedals, Strings & Things' started by fellsilver, May 3, 2008.

  1. fellsilver

    fellsilver Member

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    Just a quick question... there is currently a bit of a P-90 gap in my life. I don't have the funds for a new guitar, and I'm just wondering how close the Duncan Phat Cats come to the real deal. I know they're single coils and all, but do they REALLY sound like P-90's???? Anyone out there A/B'd 'em with actual soapbars?
     
  2. virtualtoad

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    YES - absolutely. It's a great sounding pickup, really sounds like a P-90. I was so impressed I ended up putting them in a few of my guitars... although I have to say I like the results from the neck pickups better than the bridge... using a Phat Cat in the bridge makes me wish the pickup was moved a smidge toward the neck.
     
  3. TheFlash

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    how's the noise factor on them?
     
  4. fellsilver

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    Good deal, virtual toad! Hmmm... is the neck thing possibly the result of Duncan's calibration of bridge models? I know I've found his bridge PU's always a bit overwound sounding... I usually like the neck models better in the bridge... wonder if two neck models would do it. BTW-- Keep up the good work: Toadworks RAWKS!!!
     
  5. geetarman

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    I have Phat Cats in my Hamer Newport and they sound fantastic can do the P90 thing very well.
     
  6. dr.barlo

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    One of the best pickups out there. Comparing them to real p90s is sort of impossible, because a pickup swap cannot be done and it cannot be tested in the same guitar.

    Yet, my feeling when I am comparing to my set of Lollar p90s, is that they are a little bit more polite, and thick sounding. But that is not necessarily a bad thing.

    I like them more than the Rio Grande bastards and Gibson p94s. Harmonic Design's z90's were close, but I would take the Duncan's because of the a2s, which I love.

    BTW my bridge measures 8.90K (in fact I opened it up and tapped it, and added a few more turns... 8.90 and 10.50K - #42 PE was what I used). I love that pickup. The necks a bit hot. I would rather get them ~7.00K or at most 7.20K. You certainly can try using two neck pickups, but I have to confess that I don't think that's such a good idea. My 8.90K bridge is already very alive, very clear and is not dull or anything. Thus, if you were to use a 7.50K p90 in the bridge (of course you middle position wouldn't be humcancelling anymore) it could be almost like a tele pickup. Not that it is a bad thing, I love teles. But is that what you really want?

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  7. virtualtoad

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    About what you'd expect. With ODs it's pretty noisy, not to bad clean.
     
  8. virtualtoad

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    It's not that - but looking at me SG (with actual P-90s) and my LP (with Phat Cats), the bridge pickup in the SG is about 1/4" farther away from the bridge. I suspect that makes a difference.
     

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