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Pic wah and fuzz

Discussion in 'Effects, Pedals, Strings & Things' started by glogulus, Feb 23, 2006.

  1. glogulus

    glogulus Supporting Member

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    So, I've read recently that fuzz pedals don't like true bypass pedals.. Does this mean it may not play well with my pic wah?

    This is the setup I'm hoping to build:

    guitar -> pic wah -> loooper (loop1: klon, loop2: ts9, keeley compressor, loop3: mcfuzz hot, megavibe) -> marshall 2203x.

    Do you think that the true bypass in the pic wah will cause a problem when I engage loop3?
     
  2. exodus

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    just the opposite, fuzz pedals work best with true bypass pedals... it's buffered pedals that screw with their tone.
     
  3. glogulus

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    Oh.. I thought true bypass == buffered pedal.

    What does buffered pedal mean?

    I'm glad to hear that my future pedal configuration will be okay.
     
  4. drolling

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    Yep, traditional transistor based fuzz boxes like to be as close to the passive output of your guitar's pickups as possible, preferably first in the chain.

    But I like the wah in front of the fuzz, where one of two things can happen - you get this high pitched howling sound (some kind of self-oscillating feedback?) or the wah effect just doesn't cut thru' the fuzz.

    While I've no experience w/the Picture wah, a good solution for me has been to install a Foxrox booster kit in a Vox V847 that I'd also modded to true-bypass w/a DP/DT switch. I believe all Teese wahs come w/a true-bypass switch.
     
  5. stratovarius

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    Yes, it can be a problem with the Picture Wah, too. Geoffry recommends the FoxRox kit.
     
  6. glogulus

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    Luckily I've got the foxrox kit + mumetal :).

    When a pedal buffers the signal, what is it doing?
     
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    you don't need the foxrox retrofit with the mcfuzz, it is one of the few fuzzes out there that works great with a normal wah circuit. you'll get very vocal tones with it.
     
  9. glogulus

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    Do you think having the retrofit will cause a problem? Should I just dial it down?
     
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    I'll second that. The McFuzz Hot I used to have worked beautifully with a Picture Wah, as does the D*A*M Ram Head.
     
  12. exodus

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    I'm honestly not sure--you may want to shoot an email to Dave Fox. Did you get the McFuzz yet?
     
  13. Python

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    I have the Picture wah with the Foxrox Retrofit (http://foxroxelectronics.com/Wah retrofit 1.html)

    I have it set to unity gain and it works perfect with any fuzz. As has been mentioned, the retrofit buffer is not usually needed with the wah in front of ODs, just for a real fuzz (like a fuzzface clone).

    If you have basic soldering skills, the retrofit is trivial to do yourself.

    Jim
     
  14. glogulus

    glogulus Supporting Member

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    Is unity gain all the way to the left or to the right?
     
  15. glogulus

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    Nope, not yet. It's getting tweaked I think.
     
  16. Python

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    Unity gain is a little left of the top center. I think Dave Fox sends them set up with unity gain. You can experiment with it by turning the wah on and off and set the gain control until the vol with the wah off = the vol with the wah on.

    Jim
     
  17. glogulus

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    Cool thank you!
     
  18. stratovarius

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    This confuses me. I've gone to a bit of trouble to ensure that there are no buffers in front of my fuzz pedal, but the solution to the howling wah problem is to add a buffer?

    Can anyone explain this?
     

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