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  1. Josef

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    Anywhere is everywhere and nowhere is nothing.
    The noted '4 conductor cable' would indicate that it is splittable, but you may want to check out the S-D site.
     
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    that was actually a better question, does 4 conductor cable always indicate that it can be split?
     
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    You may actually split a 4 conductor humbucker - but having said that, I'm not sure it would sound "nice" or useable.
    I had a pair of DiMarzios (DP196 and 197) in a Melancon which were absolutely useless when split...
    But, YMMV, etc...

    JJ
     
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    ok whats a good splittable tele bridge pup?
     
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    Splittable TELE BRIDGE pickup??
    Do I understand correctly?
    Do you mean you wish to install a humbucker in a Tele and be able to split it?

    JJ
     
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    Lets clear something up.....

    coil tap: where a SINGLE coil has 3 conductors......at one end of the wrap a wire to be used as ground, then one at some point BEFORE the end of the wrap, then one at the end of the wrap. So you can select 2 different amounts of wrap for 2 different outputs. Say for example, a 5k tap, and a 8k tap. So you have a SC that can be switched from a low vintage output to a very hot one.

    Split: a double coil pup that when SPLIT grounds one coil out so you're left with one, giving you a SOMEWHAT SC type sound.

    I realize most know this, but i see the phrase "coil tap" used so often to describe splitting i just had to describe the 2.
     
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    thanks for the info Dazco

    The correct term I want to use is split...so I would like a humbucker in the bridge position (would be nice if it were tele bridge size, single coil size) that I can split to a single coil
     
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    I've never found a SC sized hummer that sounded good when split. But then i never found one i liked period. But as full sized ones go, as leonc said elsewhere, the andersons split pretty nicly. The H-2 being the one i have. Still not a great SC sound to my ear but better than most. One reason most hummers don't sound totally SC-like when split is because even when you split a humbucker and one coil is electronically no longer in circuit and doesn't affect the tone at all, the polepieces for the non-working coil are still picking up some string vibration because they are attached to the same magnet as the working coil.
     
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    right,
    that makes sense. My goal is to use the HB most of the time, but have the option for SC style sound (I am not typically a SC player, mostly HB...)

    So I just need it to be "close"
     
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    there are none in lipstick size.
    Humbuck type I can only think of let's see
    DiMarzio Fast track style (these are blades I think they can be split)
    Seymour Lil '59 (although someone said these aren't very good)
    maybe a screaming deamon?
     
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    the lil 59 is a good over all pickup for Humbucker sounds aren't they?
     
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    Tom Anderson stacked single coils sound great when split. If you want a more humbuckers sound they also have a dual coil single width bridge that also splits great.
     
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    Rather than split it, I like to have it so the’split’ sound is actually both coils in parallel.
     
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    This is my preference also.
    I try to utilize the different sonic quality and emphasis it by picking dynamics.
    In most live situations, that is sufficient for my requirements. And a big AND, the pup remains hum bucking!
     
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    With a humbucking pickup you can have it wired in series or parallel.
    Tapping a pickup is the term where a single coil has wraps and a lead partially through the entire wound pickup, and the lead at the end of the wrap for the full single coil sound.

    If you have a stacked single coil pickup, where two separate coils are involved, you can split that to single coil, if you have the 4-conducter leads coming from it.

    As mentioned, the Seymour Duncan site has many wiring diagrams on how to wire up different sounds from their pickups.
     
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    On the single coil-sized humbuckers, I agree that parallel sounds better to me than split, plus, it stays hum-cancelling. Any 4 conductor pickup can be split, though. Tapping is something else entirely, as was stated. Many people confuse those or use them interchangeably, but electronically they are very different.
     

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