Pierre Boulez Picks The Top Ten Of The 20th Century

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  1. Neer

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    Awesome, thanks for the link.

    I wouldn't mind adding a few of my own favorites:

    Easley Blackwood "Twelve Microtonal Etudes" -- pretty mind-blowing stuff. A bit disorienting

    Josef Matthias Hauer "Zwolftonspiele" -- The 'other' 12-tone music.

    More to come
     
  2. freedom's door

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    Thanks for this-i'll be checking these out for sure.
     
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    Thanks for this. I've been listening to his compositions lately in honor of his birthday.
     
  4. urizen

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    Thanx for that, CD--- I would have imagined Hindemith had earned a place on his list and must admit that seeing Varese on there was a bit of a surprise (and one that gave me even greater regard for Boulez); he seems to really value pioneering and fearless musical creativity.
     
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    Really interesting- expected to see Debussy's 'Jeux.'
     
  6. Scott Miller

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    Not much French, and no Ives!
     
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    Some conspicuous absences, but not surprised given Boulez' apparent aesthetic and orientation as a composer.

    Not a single American, unless we count Varese, whom I believe became a citizen.

    Some other nominees...

    Ives - 4th Symphony

    Morton Feldman - Rothko Chapel or Triadic memories

    Reich - Music for 18 Musicians or Tehillim

    Messaien - Musique Pour les Fin des Temps

    so many others come to mind...Ligeti, Xenakis, Crumb, Ruggles, Scelsi, Carter, etc.
     
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    You'd think with all those omissions he'd have thought twice about putting himself on the list....
     
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    I like the way that with most of those pieces (esp. the Stockhausen and the Boulez) you can click at any point along the timeline and then click somewhere else and you will end up with something that actually makes more sense than listening to it from start to finish.

    I read 'Boulez on Music Today' at too young an age. I bear grudges.
     
  10. jb70

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    i would also put ives on this list but i would go with the "holidays symphony". "thanksgiving and forefathers day" is one of the greatest things i've ever heard in my life
     
  11. Chrome Dinette

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    Indeed, the case could be made for the inclusion of everyone you mentioned. It would be easier to pick a top 50 than a top 10.

    I wonder if there classical message boards where folks argue viciously the way folks here do when Rolling Stone or Guitar World publishes a best of.
     
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    Oh dood, trust me, they get all ostinato 'n ****, threaten to throw an hundredweight of scores at each other or to hire some non-union guy to rub rosin into your eyes...they vicious!!
     
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    I think bow snobbery may be a thing among string players.
     

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