Pitchfactor or H3000 SE

Discussion in 'Effects, Pedals, Strings & Things' started by ttosh, Dec 26, 2009.


  1. ttosh

    ttosh Member

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    Which one and why? Already have a TC G Force which is being used for delay, modulation and reverb. This unit would be micro pitch and pitch shifting in general for the most part. Maybe some other cool FX depending on what each offers.
     
  2. Man with Gas

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    Seriously whatever money you spend will be a total waste of time UNLESS:-

    you either buy an Eventide Eclipse or an FX Ultra. (Move your TC unit on)

    If money is NO object get an Eventide H8000. (Overkill for guitar but what a toy)

    CUSTOM SCALES capability is where it's at. Anything less is useless. You may not think so to begin with but you soon will.

    Trust me, I've been down this path and there is ONLY the above to consider.

    Bite the bullet and get it right the first time. Your patience AND wallet will thank you later.
     
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    Umm ... no way. I've got amongst other Eventide rack units, an Eclipse, also a G-Force and have opted out of buying an AxeFX. I wouldn't choose either before the G-Force. There are things the Eclipse does better but likewise there are things the G-Force does much better. A blanket statement of "ditch x to buy y" is pointless.

    To the OP, out of the options you mention I'd get the H3000 every time, no question at all.
     
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    :agree 100%
     
  5. ttosh

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    I have no plans of ditching the G Force as it does some things very very well. I had an Axe FX Standard and Ultra and both were very nice, but are now gone. My other guitar player has my old Eclipse so I know they are great units but was thinking the H3000 might offer a bit of a overall difference from the newer gear as the Eclipse or Pitchfactor and you and Zach seem to agree.......

    Thanks for all the input so far, it is appreciated.
     
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    Something to consider w/ an older unit like the H3000SE, is that Eventide no longer offers support for that item.
     
  7. Man with Gas

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    Add to that the H3000 drops out audio wise when changing programs. (All H3000s do this. A program is loaded "completely" and in that time the processor is "busy")

    I do respect the opinion of others, however, an Eventide is far superior if driven correctly than the G Force. The TC is a guitar device and the Eventide a professional/studio unit.

    When you talk about tracking and setting up for harmony/modulation the Eventide kills.

    This is coming from someone who has owned all Eventides and believes their customer support from a tech perspective needs a major overhaul.

    As reference I've owned my H8000 for a couple of years now and it has totally killed my GAS for any other rack unit. There is NOTHING the H8000 cannot do today or in the future.

    If you don't get an Eventide I'm actually pleased they don't get the sale. (arrogant pr_cks. LOL!) But for assistance to a fellow TPGer I have to be the bigger man and tell it like it is regardless of my beef with them.
     
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    Agreed, re H3000SE's preset load lag time. Running parallel in a guitar rig tames this a bit.

    I too have had the H8000FW since it came out in '06, and am absolutely satisfied with it.
     
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    Glad to see someone agrees with my observations/thoughts on the H8000.

    BTW: I have S/N 666 (no kiddin')

    It was one of the 2 original test/beta machines owned by Scott Gilfix. (no longer at Eventide)
     
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    S/N whoa-- That's kinda neat

    Is yours a studio tool, or used in a guitar rig?
     
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    side question... if you just wanted to do crystals... pitchfactor or H3000?
     
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    Hmmm... I wouldn't/couldn't place a limit to just do Crystals with either of those. There are too many other things that are possible w/ $400-$1000, and/or with either one of those units.
     
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    I don't have a preset list for the H3000SE or the PF, but here is the preset list for the H8000-- take your pick at an effect:

    H8000FW Preset Manual
     
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    I'm a nut job :crazy, I use it in a guitar rig.

    As I mentioned in my posts, bite the bullet and do it right the first time if you can. It saves time and money in the end. (provided you're serious about doing the best you can for your sound)
     
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    Me too... I agree

    Pics?

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    VERY nice:bow

    I apologise as I don't have photos of my rack but if I did it would only be my H8000.

    For what I do I only need the one. Here's a couple of things I have to prove I'm a nut job.

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    :aok:beer

    Nice collection of gear you have there.

    This is the big rig all together, minus a few guitars:

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    Check your e-mail. (Proves how good the H8000 can be with a bit of tweaking thanks to VSIG)

    Love the Schon.

    WDW rig looks cool.
     
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    replied.

    The Schon was actually one of Neal's backups (Larivee)
     

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