Pitchfactor or H3000 SE

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  1. ttosh

    ttosh Member

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    Which one and why? Already have a TC G Force which is being used for delay, modulation and reverb. This unit would be micro pitch and pitch shifting in general for the most part. Maybe some other cool FX depending on what each offers.
     
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    Umm ... no way. I've got amongst other Eventide rack units, an Eclipse, also a G-Force and have opted out of buying an AxeFX. I wouldn't choose either before the G-Force. There are things the Eclipse does better but likewise there are things the G-Force does much better. A blanket statement of "ditch x to buy y" is pointless.

    To the OP, out of the options you mention I'd get the H3000 every time, no question at all.
     
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    :agree 100%
     
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    I have no plans of ditching the G Force as it does some things very very well. I had an Axe FX Standard and Ultra and both were very nice, but are now gone. My other guitar player has my old Eclipse so I know they are great units but was thinking the H3000 might offer a bit of a overall difference from the newer gear as the Eclipse or Pitchfactor and you and Zach seem to agree.......

    Thanks for all the input so far, it is appreciated.
     
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    Something to consider w/ an older unit like the H3000SE, is that Eventide no longer offers support for that item.
     
  6. zachman

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    Agreed, re H3000SE's preset load lag time. Running parallel in a guitar rig tames this a bit.

    I too have had the H8000FW since it came out in '06, and am absolutely satisfied with it.
     
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    S/N whoa-- That's kinda neat

    Is yours a studio tool, or used in a guitar rig?
     
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    side question... if you just wanted to do crystals... pitchfactor or H3000?
     
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    Hmmm... I wouldn't/couldn't place a limit to just do Crystals with either of those. There are too many other things that are possible w/ $400-$1000, and/or with either one of those units.
     
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    I don't have a preset list for the H3000SE or the PF, but here is the preset list for the H8000-- take your pick at an effect:

    H8000FW Preset Manual
     
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    Me too... I agree

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    :aok:beer

    Nice collection of gear you have there.

    This is the big rig all together, minus a few guitars:

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    replied.

    The Schon was actually one of Neal's backups (Larivee)
     
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    I'm wondering if, 8 years later, this is still the case. Now that the H9000 is coming...

    There's no way I can justify an H8000, unless I get to actually make money out of this (this is just a hobby for me), but from what I've read/listened, H8000 does everything I currently do with my pedals and way way way way way more.
     
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    I own the Orville, the predecessor to the H8000, and even it does more than most people would ever want or need.
     
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    The Orville and H8000 are several years old now...what are appropriate used prices on these? I remember these units carrying a huge price tag when they first came out.
     
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    Let me ask this straight, can you build an Harpeggiator type of algorithm with custom scales and patterns (with non fixed length values also) where you could send a MIDI CC or PC for each step?


    Or something simple like this:

    Step 1 -> Hall reverb at 10% of mix
    Step 2 -> Chorus at 10% of mix
    Step 3 -> Room reverb at 40% of mix (with inverted phase)
    Step 4 -> Vibrato at 40% of mix
    Step 5 -> Reverse delay at 30% of mix

    Every step in either separate or the same output at different panning values.
    Maybe a spring reverb at the end of each step too.

    Not that I will do that, but I want to know how further can it be pushed in this regard.

    I know the H8000 has some MIDI sequencing capabilities, and that is definitely something I'd love to have!
     
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    I haven't studied the Harpeggiator algorithm, so this is not from experience, but I would guess so. It's just a couple pitch shifters with the pitch values sequenced, right?


    No problem, and the above could probably all live in one of the Orvilles two DSP engines. In an update that came along after I had been using Orville for a while, they added quite a few "virtual rack" presets that give you multiple "virtual devices" in a preset.

    Before the "virtual rack" thing came along, I built some similar things that had several flavors of modulation, filters, delays, reverbs, etc. all independently bypassable, with individual mix controls.
     
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    Well, f u c k.
     
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