Plate Reverb in a Pedal with HIGH headroom?

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  1. MadFrank

    MadFrank Supporting Member

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    I'm running a Hardwire Rv-7 into a variety of amps, but this specifically relates to my Germino Classic 45 (JTM45).

    I lurve reverb! Especially 'Plate' reverb. Just so thickening and naturaly ambient for blues or adding a bit of space to my signal. I have always prefered it's natural and unobtrusive style to that of a brighter and thinner Spring type, which has it's place too. However, the RV-7 does not likey the Germino. :mad: I can tell it's 9v headroom runs out of space and the reverb starts to distort as soon as I get it into 'Peter Green' type territory. Pity, as I have always liked the RV-7 a lot.

    So... can anyone help me with a reverb pedal that is higher headroom and does plate? No effects loop on the Germino.

    What I know...

    Dr. Scientist RRR - Perfect... but 9v. Boo!

    Hall Of Fame - Versatile, plate... but 9v.

    Evantide Space.. The only unit I can think of, but too expensive for the rather simple use I want it for. I'm not an 'experimental/soundscape' kinda player!

    I cannot think or know of any others. :dunno Any help/ideas?

    Cheers!

    Edit.. after having a further look around, I see;

    Blackstar HT Reverb - Plate and high headroom! But I promised myself to never buy another Blackstar product again!! :facepalm

    TC Nova Reverb.

    T-Rex Roommate. Is this the one? High Headroom and Plate.
     
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    Tried the BSR?

    Also, WET can handle line-level. I think maybe same with BSR.
     
  3. MadFrank

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    The Bluesky would be the perfect answer, but I have read here often that it's not so great with the simpler reverbs like plate, but excells at the modulated and shimmery stuff?

    Is the Wet just a 'Spring' emulation though?
     
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    It sounds fine to me for simple plate.

    WET has its own thing going on - no direct spring emulation.
     
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    Thanks 4nd3h! I'll look into them some more.
     
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    Yeah, you are describing the BSR in my opinion. Great headroom and it's plate is it's most useful reverb type I think. You can also EQ the reverb with the High and Low Damp.
     
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    The official Strymon demo's of the plate mode do sound great, I'll have to admit. It's also cheaper than the T-Rex, with more features.
     
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    I have a Blue Sky, and I love Strymon's stuff. That being said, this is the best Reverb I've ever used, period. Built like a tank, dead silent, and has dual reverb settings.

    http://www.glab.com.pl/dr-2_en

    Joe Bonamassa uses one, and he cranks up...
     
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    This-
     
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    If there's no loop in the Germino, that means that you must be running your reverb in front of the amp, correct? In that case, it's not an issue of headroom (it's getting the same signal from the guitar no matter what the amp is doing), it's an issue of running a reverb in front of a dirty amp. ;)
     
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    The Dr. Scientist RRR actually can be run on 18v

    So that's my suggestion
     
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    I got a TC HOF recently, and my favorite setting on this pedal
    is the Plate Reverb...
     
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    This. Might save you some tail chasing to think this through.

    Also it's a mistake to assume that any reverb running at 18v necessarily has greater headroom than a 9v pedal.
     
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    THIS is totally correct. Believe me, I know... tried it all.
    When you have an amp that is compressing, or with a little more gain on the front end (I'm talking about relatively clean, tweed type amps- certainly a C-45) as the gain/ compression increases, the reverb goes kind of out of control, no matter how subtly you try to set it... it's not the reverb's fault- it's the fact that it's in front of the input of the amp..
    this is also why some guys set up elaborate "wet rigs" so that the reverb is AFTER all the gain and compression... no easy solution without an effects loop. Good Luck! Blue Sky and Wet are both as good as it gets, by the way... exactly what I'm using.
     
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    ^ Ahhh! :idea

    Thanks for pointing that out guy's. I had assumed, because I generally like to keep things simple in my rig, that it was a headroom issue. I guess there are ways around it, I read about them all the time here, but wed/dry, multi-loop etc.. type rigs are not my scene! Time for some more research!

    Thanks for all the help, guy's! As ever. :aok
     
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    Agreed. Also, I think all the Hardwires use internal voltage doubling to 18v, so headroom shouldn't be an issue anyway.
     
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    Thanks for the info CC and SM! I will have to check out the RRR one day, just to get that glourious plate!
     

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