Discussion in 'The Sound Hound Lounge' started by BlueRiff, Mar 11, 2019.
Just for fun!!!
And how many times can you do that before the set up needs to be redone? I'm having trouble wondering why I would do that to my guitar after I paid a luthier to set it up and adjust the neck, etc.
I do it for an effect on chords like Frisell and Ted. Just shaking the neck for looks seems pointless, but if it helps you feel it then go for it.
I started intuitively doing this all the time, mainly when playing chords, for a slow shaky vibrato effect, or a little warble. Basically, I press my arm into the body while playing in just the right way. I first saw Ted Green do it playing solo jazz guitar and he's the one I mainly associate it with. It is a completely different vibrato than what one goes for with one's fingers really and it kind of produces a chorusing effect. And it especially works well on a telecaster or a tele style guitar.
It doesn’t materially affect the setup - not as much as the temperature changes to which my guitars are subjected up here in the great white north (last rehearsal I walked there in the snow, and within 20 mins the room was up to at least high 70s ...).
That said, I don’t baby instruments - I once co-produced a recording session that required the piano to be re-tuned after every take (Ustvokskaya solo piano works ...).
I have a friend who does this with his Les Paul.
Does this make him such a bad person?
I won't let my friend play my Les Paul.
Does that make *me* such a bad person?
Have never done this myself, but here's a nice demo, with and without, using different guitars.
It's really not that hard to understand when it's done by a great player.
Shaking the neck definitely creates vibrato ... Watch Townshend live if you doubt it.
I learned all these tricks from Townshend.
it’s kind of annoying watching Daniel Steinhardt do it EVERY time he plays a clean chord.
Ive seen it done. Garth Webber acutally holds his guitar body and flexes the neck pretty hard.
I prefer not to do it myself.
I see it in demos a lot and I think its mostly bs.
What exactly is BS in the video I posted right above...#128?
No idea. I wasnt responding to your video, just saying what I think of demos Ive seen.
Knowing you can’t stand this guy made for a hilarious payoff watching from 1:20-1:30.
The more I hang around this site the more I realize the vast majority have absolutely no clue what they’re talking about. 15 posts in you’ve got multiple examples of it by known masters of guitar and naysayers still chiming in 120 posts later. It’s a revelation.
It's because the guitar is a "thinking instrument" in a society where people have been systematically trained not to think. It runs counter to their programming.
Video examples are of little effect in most cases because the guitar is basically a technical puzzle that requires problem solving skills. As Jerry Seinfeld observed, in today's world everything has been reduced to a simple rating system; "sucks or great". Anything beyond that is ignored.
I understand the pseudo-dive bomb neck bend (used to do that when I was a young player, but not anymore), but I have to admit that I can't stand seeing people do the little neck wiggle thing - looks silly to me and doesn't do anything you can't do with your fingers.
Yes, I am a judgmental jerk.
a buddy of mine copped the move off Belew in the 80s and showed me. I do it sometimes when I'm playing acoustic. I tend to be quite gentle and deliberate about execution to avoid any damage. More commonly I'll bend behind the nut or if "divebombing" use the tuning peg which can be a sexy stage move for a player who is seated if not quite as flashy as wrenching the neck while doing a backflip in assless chaps.