Poll: 1x12 combo: Compact or Oversized?

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs' started by Nolatone Ampworks, Sep 23, 2008.

1x12 Combo cab: Compact or Over Sized?

  1. Compact

  2. Oversized

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  1. Nolatone Ampworks

    Nolatone Ampworks Silver Supporting Member

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    Hi all,

    I'm curious to know if more folks prefer the convenience of a smaller compact 1x12 combo, or one with a larger cabinet to give extended tonal range.

    Please tell me what you prefer and why.
     
  2. googoobaby

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    More about weight than size for me.
     
  3. Magic Twanger

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    I agree that weight can be a deal breaker, but for me it's all about the tone in a portable package.
    If that means a slightly larger cab - then that's ok with me - it's still lighter and more portable than a 2x12.

    So put me down for oversized over compact.
     
  4. Nolatone Ampworks

    Nolatone Ampworks Silver Supporting Member

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    And solid pine is going to be lighter than birch ply. I use solid pine.
     
  5. Rod

    Rod Tone is Paramount Silver Supporting Member

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    oversized....much bigger sounding...small boxes sound boxy///The best sounding 1/12 cab I've owned is open back and the size is 26"x20"x12
     
  6. MartinC

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    Oversized for me please.

    I used to have a Peavey Classic 30 which was compact. It sounded good. Then I upgraded to a Hughes & Kettner Statesman Quad EL84 1x12 combo which has an oversized, and almost closed backed cabinet. The Statesman undoubtedly sounds bigger.

    I too would have weight limits, but I didn't mind going from 18Kg for the C30 to 24Kg for the Statesman. I'd say around 28Kg would be my absolute limit, after which I'd either pass, or go for a head if my budget could stretch.
     
  7. Timbre Wolf

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    Oversize for me too - I agree with Rod

    I put tone first, and the wider-body cabs tend to have a better low-end balance.

    You guys wanna talk about too big - when I started playing, I hauled around two Fender blackface Twins (in stereo!). :jo Yeah - no one's going to swipe those from the stage!

    - Thom
     
  8. guitarist58

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    I'd say I'd prefer (somewhat) oversized as well... has to be fairly light, though ( <35 lbs. preferably)
     
  9. shngn7

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    Oversized. They tend to give a bigger sound and better bass response especially if it's open backed. I made sure I built my cab for my Hot Rod Deluxe a few inches larger in every direction for that big sound I wasn't getting from the combo alone.
     
  10. Goodwood Audio

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    Definitely oversized - for me it was two reason
    1. Better overall frequency response with increased bass handling.
    2. Much more stable when put into a road case with castors.
     
  11. Nolatone Ampworks

    Nolatone Ampworks Silver Supporting Member

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    I'd been kicking around the idea of offering a smaller cabinet. I can still offer it, but based on this thread so far, my initial size of 24x21x10.5 appears to be pretty on point.

    I'm starting to have Mather Cab build my cabs and I've spec'd these dimensions except with a slant front, 10" deep at the top, and 11" deep at the bottom.
     
  12. pula58

    pula58 Silver Supporting Member

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    a deeper cab seems to make for a fuller sound.

    But, weight is a deal breaker or deal maker for me!

    For a 1x12, anything over 45 lbs is a show stopper!
     
  13. Nolatone Ampworks

    Nolatone Ampworks Silver Supporting Member

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    I've never weighed the 22 Tango, so based on this thread I just did and it comes in at 41.5lb, and that's WITH the stout trannys (larger than usual for dual 6V6 amp). What a difference some pine makes! :AOK
     
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    Weight is an issue, but smaller cabs sound boxy ... oversized is the way to go.
     
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    If I'm gonna go oversized I'd just as well get a head and a cab. A HUGE 112 combo defeats the purpose of a 112 combo, at least for me.
     
  16. slambango

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    If I'm playing a 1x12" it's because it's small & easy to move. That's the only reason for doing it. It's great to have the larger enclosure, but then you could just use a 2x12" cab! Am I missing something?
     
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    Best size-weight-tone ratio for me in a 1x12 is Tweed Deluxe: 20 x 16 x 9 1/2

    Light, easy to move and that great middly tone sits well a band.
     
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    +1 Make em small and offer a matching 1x12 ext cab. Bob
     

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