Post-Zappa Fragmentary!

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  1. John Czajkowski

    John Czajkowski Member

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    I now have 4 tunes (unmastered) from my upcoming CD on the band website. One will stream when you go to the site, or you can go to the Musik page. There are also some lead sheet exerpts on the Notes page of the site for those who want to see the stuff in writing.

    Brief comments on the compositions:

    1. "The Third Derivative of James Brown" - Police+Planet X+Zappa+MC Hammer = math progressive metal gone haywire...

    2. "Bionic Hillbilly" - attention deficit Zappa-billy

    3. "Subterranean Rapid Transit" - descriptive psychedelic metal

    4. "F Street Fulano" -making porno music wholesome for Americans

    More to come!
     
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    wow-very FRANK-i hear his voice sample!-did you need permision from Gail Z?

    very good post zappa-congajulations!!

    bumpyyy

    jf
     
  3. John Czajkowski

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    Thanks John,

    I'm glad you dig the compositions and recordings. I must add that there are no Zappa samples whatsoever. I don't need a bunch of lawyers coming to kick my butt! :eek:
     
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    oh sorry - sounded like him ! maybe i was just imagining that element.

    one day ill put up a demo/compisition i did called 'the blue page'-way too hard to finish....

    good stuff!

    jf
     
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    Wow! Great stuff!
     
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    There's nothing like nested polyrhythms to start your day. ;)

    Nice playing on the intro track. I didn't have time to listen to the rest, but I will once I get to work. Good luck with the project.
     
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    ****ing great writing/arranging/playing. Thanks for signing up and posting here!
     
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    Yeah baby, great stuff on all fronts. I hope you guys do well.

    Looks like a Steve Morse w/ whammy on your homepage.
     
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    I'm enjoying the begonias out of this right now. :AOK
     
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    Damn work computer won't do activex. Any direct links?? Please??
     
  12. John Czajkowski

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    Jeepers! Thanks for all the comments! This really made my day. Right ON!

    Unfortunately, I don't have any direct links to the music now...for those with a protective big brother office network. DAMN the man!

    When the CD is finished, we'll be gigging the hell out it trying to get the music more exposure of course. If anybody has creative ideas of where to present this kind of thing, I'm all ears!
     
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    KILLER stuff!!!! Absolutely love it! You guys need a producer/engineer? ;)
     
  14. John Czajkowski

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    Anton,

    I appreciate your comments about my music. At this point, I am doing everything myself -which is not good. I would like to get a mastering engineer for sure. I am hoping to get a guy who will be able to take my full Pro Tools sessions and go forward to the mastering from there, but also go backwards to the mixing if necessary to fine-tune anything that is irreparable in the mastering stage so it is really done correctly. My remaining budget for a killer player or two and mastering engineer is definitely putting me into the champaign tastes on a beer budget category! However, I doubt I am not the first independent artist to suffer from this affliction of being capital challenged! I'd love to know more about your work as my computer at work wouldn't let me get all the way into your site. (by the way, I'm in San Diego).

    John
     
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    Emailed you via Hectic Watermelon website :)
     
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    O, so you work a straight job and you can play/record stuff like that? I guess it's not too late for me to give up. ;)
     
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    Really smokin' stuff!

    Peace,
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  18. John Czajkowski

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    Well, funny you should say that as I am now a high school teacher who used to make a living leading U.S. Navy SEAL operations in a previous life. "Don't turn yo back on me sucka'! - Mr. T :Devil

    Many of my buddies who left the commando death practice went to law school, business school, medical school, etc. Conversely, I went to Guitar Center! I now express my frustration with the whole time-space-continuum problem with sound metaphors DIG? :BITCH

    Seriously folks, (and although I know you're just joshin', ya' still betta listen closely mister D!) Don't ever, ever, EVER give up the quest for yo' self-expression...becuase if ya do, then that is precisely when THE MAN has you by yo' doo-dads! And it ain't alwaise about tekneek neether!
     
  19. Kappy

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    I feel ya', and I was j/k about quitting. I've been called to do something with the muse. Whether I'll really discover it in this life is another story. ;) I'll sure have fun trying.

    I've been working on The Black Page #1 on and off for a loooong time, but put some pretty serous time into it last year. It seems like you have a pretty good grasp of some of those rhythms. Any tips for what helped you get your mind around those nested polyrhythms? Was it sheer grunt work or did you find other things that helped? Would like to hear your take on that stuff.

    P.S. I always wanted to be a SEAL or a Ranger but my civilian life always got in the way of my joining the service. I'm sure you got to see some pretty wild things during your stint. What do you think of Marcinko and his books?
     
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    When I compose, it usually ends up reflecting a good balance of both intuition and theoretically derived material and/or solutions by the time I am satisfied with the overall effort. Which elements are which seems to always fluctuate with me. If it drifts too much towards the intuition and improvisation side, I often watch to make sure it is not too cliché or unstructured; if it is heading off into brain land, I watch out that it is not too clinical or dispassionate to my ears.

    As far as the nested tuplets go in "The Derivative of James Brown" it is difficult to talk about without the score, but you can see the really gruesome parts on the Notes section of our website. In the Roadrunner on Crack melody, you see a 3:2 tuplet alternating and then interlocking with a 7:6 figure over the top. The nested tuplets would be the 4:3 little mutha-scratchers that show up "nested" inside the 7:6 figure in the spastic melodic voice. I wanted to have something that sounds hyper-syncopated, like James Brown gone nutsoid.

    The piece has layers of references to James Brown and music derived from his. So, culturally-speaking this piece is the THIRD derivative. Also, mathematically, all the layers of tuplets are like a third order differential equation that can express a surging or tangential operation juxtaposed over an oscillating motion. So in this regard, it's very different from how I understand Zappa to have operated. He uses these devices to a very different end in my view. Whereas his are often angular and oblique, I'm attempting to make something that is more fluid and psychedelic in this piece.

    As far as the spec ops talk goes, I prefer to not go into any details in public situations. Sorry.

    Brian, that sounds great. Let's talk or e-mail, etc!
     

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