Potted vs. Unpotted: Harmonic content, Swirl, Openness, Pinch Harmonics

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  1. jamison162

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    Let's discuss, should be interesting.

    My experience is limited, but I feel the unpotted Seth Lovers I had once (although a little bright and thin for me) had great openess and swirl and it seemed I could get pinch harmonics much easier.

    Anyone else?
     
  2. gkoelling

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    The Don Mare 2324's in one of my parts tele's aren't potted and they're amazing. They're far more lively than any other tele pups I've owned. Heck, I can talk into them and it comes through the amp!

    I have a Seth Lover in the neck of a LP and have no complaints with that either.
     
  3. Mike9

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    I have a Lollar P-90 in a LP Jr. and I can talk into it as well. Sounds fantastic clean, but really goes berserk in the drive channel. I'm thinking of potting it just around the cover.
     
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    What about A2 vs. A5 and covered vs. uncovered in regards to these tonalities as well?
     
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    Cool Thread.

    I just ordered a set of Don Mare 2324's and am looking forward to exploring this very question for myself.
     
  6. trumpus

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    What exactly is the difference between potted and unpotted pickups?
     
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    FWIW, my experience is that much of this is in the hands. Whereas unwanted high gain microphonic feedback is not. Bottom line for me (YMMV): pot my PUPs.
     
  9. Rosewood

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    I'm a pothead, don't think you can make a good pickup sound bad with wax, just different.
     
  10. HHB

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    couple of years into unpotted humbuckers, never even bothered to try em because of the " they'll feedback" warning, well that was stupid in hindsight cause they rule IMO. If your wondering what that magic old tone is from classic live recordings that ya just cant seem to capture, try a set of Voodoo 59's
     
  11. McGurk

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    I'm curious about unpotted pickups. I'd like to get feedback more easily from my guitar in high gain applications. Would an unpotted humbucker allow me to do this in a desirable way or is it the kind of feedback that sounds terrible?
     
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    You're talking about 2 different kinds of FB. The desirable kind is where the amp is loud enough that the sound coming from the speaker vibrates the strings causing a loop. The undesirable kind is where the windings on the pickup and/or the cover vibrate and squeal having nothing to do with the strings and therefore just undesirable noise.
     
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    I like both types for different tones.

    In terms of just dynamic response, unpotted has the edge in my experience.
     
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    Unpotted all the way. I just got a set of OX4 pickups and they are incredibly open sounding and detailed. They have actually rekindled my love of HBs, if you are a single coil guy that is more picky with humbuckers I'd definitely give some unpotted pickups (and out of phase neck) a try.
     
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    unpotted for me. every wax potted humbucker I've used sounded muddy, too warm and lacking in articulation.

    unpotted ReWinds..... damn! what a sound! that's the classic late 50's Gibson tone right there.
     
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    I've taken a hair-dryer to uninstalled humbuckers with great success. Keep your wax-moppin-rag handy, and try not to start a fire(I used TP).
     
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    Seth Lovers are my favorite pickups
     
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    I've got a pair of SD Antiquities in my SG. Very open and articulate. They've got a bit of p-90 to them which I find highly desirable.
     
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    The MCP Black Belt custom humbuckers in my semi-homemade are unpotted and
    microphonic to the point where I can vocalize through them and it comes out the amp.

    I wouldn't have it any other way.
     
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    I put a set in a borrowed LP clone that just sound great.

    I had a set in a SG...no complaints! I have another set looking for a home, I just need the right guitar.

    I honestly can't see spending hundreds more chasing some elusive, mythical tonal nirvana when SD offers the Lovers and Antiquites so reasonably.
     

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