"Pretty in Pink" '81 Version vs. '86 Version

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  1. Fatherflot

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    1981, from the album Talk, Talk, Talk:





    1986, from the Pretty in Pink Soundtrack:



    Interested in hearing your comments about the two versions and why they might have been asked to rerecord it for the film.

    The first version, which I loved the first time I heard it in '81, seemed like an instant classic. "Sweet Jane" chords, great guitar sounds, cool vocals (Butler was my favorite singer of the immediate post-punk period), classic rock production. Just a perfect rock single in my world.

    Second one sounds so dry and compressed. Who on earth thought it was better? I guess it has to do with mid 80's production styles. Yuck. It sounds like a demo for the '81 track.
     

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    ^What he said.

    I also always loved Richard Butler's story about how he was convinced John Hughes had never understood the lyrics when Butler was invited to a screening and got to see the resulting film.
     
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    My girlfriend from that time nearly broke up with me after overhearing me confiding my crush on Molly Ringwald to a buddy. I mean I only went on for 30 or 40 minutes. . .

    Funny thing, she dyed her hair red soon after that incident.
     
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    A&M, knowing full well that they would have a great soundtrack on their hands, didn’t want to have to pay for the masters of the original version. They would (and do) own the rights to the re-recorded version... and, hey, the kids all want synth!
     
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    They certainly got my money in 86.
     
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    Synth was to '86 was cowbell was to '72, what sitar was to '67, what farfisa was to '65.
     
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    I.e. great!!!
     
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    1981 hands down for me.....Love Butler's voice no matter.
     
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    It's like he took the cockney sneer from Johnny Rotten down a couple of registers and made it mature, world-weary, harmonically rich, and arch. He made it a grown-up sound.

    He and Julian Cope really brought back a richer more sophisticated singing style after all the punk shouting of '76-'79. Of course Elvis Costello was there as a real singer all along. He could put up a Chet Baker style torch ballad right after snotty rant.
     
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    Then there's this atrocity....



    Nik Kershaw's original version was infinitely superior.

     
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    Oh, man. I can't even...
     
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    No contest. 1981. Talk Talk Talk is a great album. It has a raw, gritty vibe that has the right blend of attitude, adventurous musicianship and urgency. I love the track "India" especially.
     
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    I seem to remember it was Molly Ringwald that actually made the call on the remake of that Nik Kershaw track. Apparently the goofy band who did the cover was a local band that she followed and wanted to give them a break. The end result was cheesy and terrible. Sounds like one of those phony bands you'd see in an 80's movie playing in a bar or party. Singer has sunglasses on. Guitarist has a blazer with the sleeves rolled up. Zebra stripe scarf around his neck. Bassist might have a torn shirt that says "Party Naked" on it in a paint splash font. They all have those poofy "Mister Mister" type haircuts. Generic pap. I always think of the band playing in the bar scene in "Back to School". Just embarrassing.
     
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    That sounds right. At least her sister dated a member of The Rave-Ups, which were a real band (if not an all time great band).
     
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    "India" isn't on that LP. It's on their 1st...Great song though.
     
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    Dang it you're right! Long day at work....
     
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    '81 fo sho.

    And great shout out to Nik Kershaw. The PIP version sounds like it's straight off of "Knee Deep in the Hoopla".
     
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    I had this weird realization today that there are New Order songs I really like for which I can't immediately remember the title anymore.
     
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