Pros and cons of the Gibson SG... educate me please

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  1. nowhere

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    I have an approximately decade old '61 RI and an "SG 60's Jr." - the single P-90, wraparound bridge model they made a few years back that has modern body and neck construction combined with sorta-6o's looks. I love them both. One big difference functionally is that the neck on the '61 RI has the rigidity of well boiled spaghetti. Not to mean I'm worried about the neck breaking, just that it really is bendy. So much so that you don't need a Bigsby to get vibrato action, just bend the neck! When I tense up the guitar goes sharp. The Jr. neck isn't really much thicker than the '61 RI but is far more rigid. Try a few SG's before deciding. I'm fine with the thin, bendy neck but you may not be.
     
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  2. TattooedCarrot

    TattooedCarrot Supporting Member

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    CONS
    • Neck setting relative to the body makes it feel like you have to reach out a little further.
    • Can be neck heavy when standing.
    • Pickups are closer to the bridge resulting in the neck pickup not having the usual sweetness.
    • Top jack
    PROS
    • Upper fret access
    • Tone similar to an LP but more cut, and angrier mids.
    • Light weight
    • Typically cheaper (than an LP)
     
  3. TP Parter

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    We'll have to disagree on the whole bridge P90 thing. Mine sounds anything but thin. Raw and mid forward, yes, but through any amount of drive or fuzz it punches and rips like a mofo.
     
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    We'll have to disagree on the whole bridge P90 thing. Mine sounds anything but thin. Raw and mid forward, yes, but through any amount of drive or fuzz it punches and rips like a mofo.
     
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  5. DiPa

    DiPa Constant GAS Silver Supporting Member

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    Yup, I have 2 custom shop, wish I had 3.
    The tone, upper fret access, light weight, and feel are all on top...
     
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  6. FlamesAreWicked

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    I’ve had them off and on for a number of years.. I currently have a 2019 Standard 61... great guitar.. I wind up selling them but I always come back.. it’ll never replace a good LP but they’re great for a little different feel than the LP shape.

    It may not be the first guitar I grab every time but I’m glad it’s there when I do grab it..

    Oh and playing at least one Angus riff is required each time ya play one lol.... it’s law
     
  7. Joshua Bernstein

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    Pros:
    • Very light weight
    • Excellent upper fret access
    • Contours are excellent
    • Sound killer, very versatile
    Cons:
    • Potential for neck dives

     
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  8. Pointy Headstock

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    I had a recent SG special and found the same "bendy neck issue". Once I discovered that I could do a slight pitch bend by choking the neck while bracing the body with my forearm, I found that I subconsciously did it wayyyy too much. Traded the SG for a Firebird.
     
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    Pros: Accessibility, aesthetic, p90 beast
    Cons: Neck heavy, eternally flat g, fragility*

    edit: the fragility is mostly the headstock angle+neck dive combination that makes me nervous, the guitars wont fall apart in your hands
     
  10. Switters

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    Pros: they are awesome.
    -very comfortable
    -all access neck
    -relatively cheap and easy to find
    -look great

    Cons: they aren’t free.
     
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  11. Krausewitz

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    Pros: Can sound bright and snappy. Not expensive.

    Cons: Not the best ergonomics
     
  12. Krausewitz

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    90% of my SG playing is clean!

    Yeah, they aren’t the best guitar for cleans, but they aren’t that bad with the right pickups and enough reverb.
     
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    I know, I think it's just my guitar or I haven't found the right bridge P90 yet. I have one in the neck position which sounds great. I just find the bridge position difficult, seems like it needs a fairly hot and thick humbucker to even match the neck P90. It's the same after I've adjusted pickup heights.
     
  14. CRAIG4FSU

    CRAIG4FSU Whatever... Silver Supporting Member

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    Love my SG's.

    The only con I can think of the is that they go flat and sharp rather easy if you lean forward or back. That's inherent to thin body design.

    My SG w/'57 classics is still one of my favorite guitars though.
     
  15. BobK

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    Pro: some guys can make them sound great.
    Con: I'm not one of them.
     
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    Pros - they’re the closest solid body alternative to a 335.
    Cons - None that I can see.

    I would love to own one.
     
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    Pros: Badfinger used 'em.
    Cons: None.
     
  18. DCross

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    I only owned one and didn't keep it very long. Based on the smallest sample greater than zero:
    Pros: Lightweight
    Cheaper than LP
    Great tone for Rock n Roll
    Reminds me of one of the coolest Marvel superheroes ever.
    Cons: Neck dive
    Required constant tuning (with other guitars I've never had this issue - very frustrating).

    I'm wondering if the thinner neck ones have worse tuning stability while the thicker necks have more neck dive ?!? Maybe I just needed a good setup?? :dunno
     
  19. pedalparty

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    SG's have some of the best features on an electric guitar and also some of the worst.

    Pros. Upper fret access is as good as it gets. Classic look, contoured body that feels comfortable to most players, Similar sounding to a LP ( some sound darker than a Maple top LP and the neck pickup is usually less bloated on a SG vs. LP), If you wear the strap high, the guitar is in a perfect playing position, an SG standard is a bargain compared to a LP standard. They are usually light in weight, which my shoulder appreciates.

    Cons. the early 60's style neck joint sucks. I would never buy one with that joint again. Its super easy to bend stuff out of tune and the guitar warbles with even slight movement. Or at least mine did. The later type neck joint is really solid though. The batwing pickguard puts the pickups on a different plane than the neck, so the pickups are always at a strange angle from the strings. This is mainly a problem if your are OCD. Neck dive is a thing, be prepared to not take your forearm off of the body. If you are the type of player that takes all of your hands off of your guitar alot then the SG may not be for you. They also lean try to flip towards the floor if you take your arm off of them while they are on a strap.

    I love my 06 SG Standard. It was my main gigging guitar for a long time and its probably the guitar I felt most comfortable on playing live, due to the way it hangs. I have a LP standard and an LP classic but I always chose the SG for live use when I wanted to play a humbucker guitar. If you decide to give on a try, I say get one with the 50's neck shape and the deeper neck joint.
     
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  20. pedalparty

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    This was my experience exactly with my 2013 SG standard that was basically a 61 RI. As much as I wanted to love the guitar, I sold it for solely that reason.
     

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