Pros Messing Up/Hitting Clams?

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  1. gonzoknife

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    Saw Alex Lifeson come in early once on Subdivisions (I believe it was Subdivisions - it was a long time ago). He owned it, laughed and moved on. It was the Forum in Los Angeles and probably the Power Windows or Hold Your Fire tour.
     
  2. AuntieDiluvian

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    Yes.

    Having done both, I will absolutely state without a doubt that the orchestral gigs are FAR more nit-picky. Once you've seen a conductor stop the whole orchestra and yell at the concertmaster because one violin bowed an upstroke instead of a down, you get a very real sense of the level of precision expected.

    If you want to get a weak sense of how demanding that sort of gig is, play some musical theater shows. They're nowhere near as rigid as orchestral work, but way ahead of basic rock band stuff. Think two or three rehearsals for 2 hours of music, all straight off charts, and the timing is completely out of your control.
     
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    ****, even Rush makes clams. I forgot which tour, but it was a post Vapor Trails tour. SPAC, around the second or third night of the tour. Vital Signs. Beginning TOTALLY boched! LOL. Song wasn't played the rest of the tour IIRC.
     
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    Didn't see this until after I posted!

     
  6. Dexter.Sinister

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    1) Safe is dull
    2) Innovation results from failing productively
    3) Every note is good; resolve them well and a fault is a feature
    4) Be kind to yourself
     
  7. Don P.

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    I saw Nick Cave sing an entire song in the wrong key. The Bad Seeds kept looking at him waiting for him to stop, but he just kept going. They were all laughing halfway through the song.
     
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    It is tough to play 3 chords with all the other distractions...
     
  9. MaxTwang

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    Even Kirk's wah has had enough of Kirk overusing a wah!!!!!
     
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    Thats a great story. Saw them at the Greek in LA a few years ago- amazing show and no wrong keys.
     
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    Can this thread be complete without a mention of Nick Jonas?

     
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    This is maybe the most glaring example I've ever seen- "live" perfromance on the BBC, being filmed, and Bernard Sumner comes in with the opening guitar lick a half step sharp! ouch
     
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    no i was making a half sarcastic statement as a chuckle, same as you i hope :).
    a rock show is a spectacle with visual stimulation where a clam gets lost in the sea.
    an orchestra show is in a much better acoustic environment and a more serious listening experience without any emphasis on the spectacle.
     
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    That actually sounds psychologically difficult to pull off - at least for me, when I'm singing, if I figure out I'm in the wrong key (or even a bit flat), I can't stop hearing it. Way to commit!

    Many of my favorite artists are prone to flubs, mostly because they don't care if they mess up while having fun. That's one of the things that makes me like them, in fact - too much perfection is just damn boring, at least to me!
     
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    Just watch Aerosmiths' Grammy performance/ Oh they took it down didn't they?
     
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    We've had nights so bad we considered changing our band's name to "Clambake" . . . (we're not pros, though)
     
  18. Hanlon92

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    Yup. Rock music is way more forgiving than almost any individual part of an orchestral piece. That’s coming from someone who plays lead guitar and bass trombone... which is an often forgotten piece of the orchestra. The bass trombone parts require significantly more precision to get by
     
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    I’ve seen Rush a bunch of times. Alex messes up a lot. The other guys almost never do, but Big Al commits many atrocities.
     
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  20. Matt L

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    4:47...Adrian flubs the timing on his solo....if you know the song/solo, you’ll notice...he kinda smirks, then just lays into the rest of the solo like a beast-

     
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